Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2018-11-12 04:27:52 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-12 04:28:19 UTC  

Though you could argue a psuedo nationalism did cause ww2.

2018-11-12 04:29:25 UTC  

Hitler, Mussilini and Hirohito warer nationalists in their own right. Though twisted forms.

2018-11-12 04:29:46 UTC  

But so were most of the allies leadership

2018-11-12 04:31:25 UTC  

Yes, but it wasn’t really the nationalism. It was the imperialism that caused the war since the invasions are what caused the actual declarations of war. Hell, the US still traded oil and other goods with Italy even while they were fascist and super nationalist.

2018-11-12 04:31:51 UTC  

"It was nationalism because the factions involved organized themselves into nations"

2018-11-12 04:33:10 UTC  

Although in this day and age, nationalism might cause wars since merely wanting to keep your sovereignty is enough for the globalists to break down your doors with floods of migrants to irreversibly change your demographics.

2018-11-12 06:36:07 UTC  

Tbh you can be nationalistic and imperialistic. Honedtly imprrialism requires a good deal of nationalism to survive. As well trade and even foriegn relations doesnt negate nationalism. Even nationalist countries know they are short on some resources and have to trade for them

2018-11-12 06:37:22 UTC  

So, nationalism and imperialism aren't really related

2018-11-12 06:39:02 UTC  

Basically

2018-11-12 06:39:21 UTC  

And imperialism doesnt equate globalism either. Tbh. But anywho.

2018-11-12 06:46:12 UTC  

I never said that you couldn’t be both at the same time

2018-11-12 06:48:41 UTC  

If you were speaking to me, that is

2018-11-12 07:03:17 UTC  

The reason i say nationalism was a massive driver towards ww2. Was post ww1 germany was a broken country. But hitler found something to bring it back and energize its people. Nationalism.

Post ww1 Japan felt austrocized. Though they did a lot to aid in ww1 on the entantes side they were all but ignored when it came to the treary of versalles. And this bred a deep seeded hate for the globalist powers. Driving them further into a nationalist imperial spirit.

Italy was just an oddball. They were nationalistm but our president at the time (the former sec of the navy that pushed for us to endlter ww1 earlier than we did) was a huge fan of musallinis. So of course we wouldnt stop trade. We also traded with japan and germany tbh for quite some time.

2018-11-12 07:04:29 UTC  

It also didnt help during the building of power and early years of the agression of those powers the us was suffering hard from the depression

2018-11-12 07:04:38 UTC  

So we took any money we could get.

2018-11-12 07:06:36 UTC  

But I’m saying that if they just remained nationalistic, there wouldn’t have been that war. Nationalism was a driver behind the real cause of the war, which was imperialism, I agree, but the actual issue is the imperialism.

2018-11-12 07:06:44 UTC  

If anything where ww1 was the clash of multiple budding globalisms. Ww2 was globalism and nationalism coming into conflict

2018-11-12 07:07:52 UTC  

The first concessiond germany demanded werent imperialistic. But recovery in nature of the national identity.

2018-11-12 07:08:08 UTC  

Area taken by the entante with german residents

2018-11-12 07:08:35 UTC  

They turned imperialistic after those i agree

2018-11-12 07:08:52 UTC  

Taking land that is no longer theirs is imperialistic if you’re taking about the land concessions demanded.

2018-11-12 07:09:31 UTC  

Expansion of a country’s territory by diplomatic or military force is imperialism

2018-11-12 07:09:49 UTC  

Well tbf taking it in the firsp place was imperialistic. The entante only took those locations to kill germany.

2018-11-12 07:10:08 UTC  

Germany was an imperial power pre ww1

2018-11-12 07:10:41 UTC  

But anywho off to bed

2018-11-12 07:11:08 UTC  

Also i can disagree with "policial aquesitions are imperialistic"

2018-11-12 07:11:10 UTC  

Yeah, I’m sure it was. But it’s imperialism nonetheless. Just because you once had the territory doesn’t mean trying to regain it isn’t still imperialism.

2018-11-12 07:11:25 UTC  

The luisiana purchase and purchase of alaska were not.

2018-11-12 07:11:37 UTC  

I’m just going by the definition. I understand there’s different types of imperialism.

2018-11-12 12:28:45 UTC  

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2018-11-12 12:34:57 UTC  

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2018-11-12 13:38:09 UTC  

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