Message from @Fitzydog

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2018-11-16 14:34:06 UTC  

Which died after like 60 or something years.

2018-11-16 14:34:12 UTC  

Yay!

2018-11-16 14:34:14 UTC  

To expand on the 50-100 parties thing, you can think of each state being a party, and the 2 senators having to work out their disagreements between each other, like a party would.

Representatives are numerous, and may have more than 2 parties in a state, so there's your third party.

2018-11-16 14:34:49 UTC  

That's good in theory but in the US it's impossible.

2018-11-16 14:34:49 UTC  

To be fair by telling them not to do it. EXPLICITLY!
He was basically telling them to do it

2018-11-16 14:34:59 UTC  

@EnderOctanus I'm American, buddy lol

2018-11-16 14:35:38 UTC  

Then you should realize that not enough people care about much else besides party affiliation.

2018-11-16 14:35:58 UTC  

You'd have to change the public perception of politics first.

2018-11-16 14:36:16 UTC  

Yes, but mostly in the last few decades with national news

2018-11-16 14:36:40 UTC  

As an outsider sometimes your politics seem like a reality tv show

2018-11-16 14:36:43 UTC  

True. But you'd have a system that at least for a while, would be crippled.

2018-11-16 14:36:46 UTC  

A Democrat in West Virginia is a lot different than California

2018-11-16 14:36:51 UTC  

And I am not talking about trump

2018-11-16 14:37:28 UTC  

Yeah. Politics past the state level turns into a money and popularity game.

2018-11-16 14:37:32 UTC  

But now with mass media, those two Dems are put on the same stage and they have to "perform" to the whole country basically

2018-11-16 14:38:03 UTC  

Which makes their platforms start to sound very similar

2018-11-16 14:38:12 UTC  

I also don't understand why so many of your races house or otherwise people are running uncontested

2018-11-16 14:38:17 UTC  

The system has just gotten too big to be properly managed the way we used to, I think.

2018-11-16 14:38:30 UTC  

In my local there are 5 different candidates

2018-11-16 14:38:47 UTC  

House races never go uncontested in my experience.

2018-11-16 14:38:50 UTC  

No, the system works fine, but we've messed with it in the past half century

2018-11-16 14:39:06 UTC  

Politicians used to be paid less than the poverty line

2018-11-16 14:39:11 UTC  

I was watching you most recent election

2018-11-16 14:39:28 UTC  

Unless you have no chance in hell of getting elected so nobody but the clear winner bothers running.

2018-11-16 14:40:01 UTC  

The districts are usually overwhelmingly supportive of one party.

2018-11-16 14:40:45 UTC  

So one party is basically guaranteed to get that vote unless their policies became really unpopular.

2018-11-16 14:41:29 UTC  

This will only change with electoral reform. Alternative vote or something.

2018-11-16 14:42:25 UTC  

Otherwise people feel like there's only one 'real' choice anyway. The OTHER PROBLEM is that almost everyone agrees that Congress is cancer.

2018-11-16 14:43:00 UTC  

The trouble is, nobody agrees on whose representatives are the ones that should go.

2018-11-16 14:44:14 UTC  

Everyone tends to favor their elected Congessman or Senator even if the rest of the country can't stand them. Partially because the country is basically a continent and so local problems can be big factors.

2018-11-16 14:45:08 UTC  

Everyone agrees, get the clowns out of government. They CAN'T agree on whose clowns should get tossed out. There's our problem.

2018-11-16 14:45:49 UTC  

I still think people should run

2018-11-16 14:46:10 UTC  

Then the media makes false dichotomies and pushes divisive narratives that convinces people that the other party fundamentally has nothing in common with their beliefs.

2018-11-16 14:46:23 UTC  

We had an election recently where a seat that had never changed hands ever. Went to the independent

2018-11-16 14:46:29 UTC  

It was insane

2018-11-16 14:46:31 UTC  

I think we should abolish the state

2018-11-16 14:46:45 UTC  

That would be the worst possible choice.

2018-11-16 14:46:52 UTC  

Exactly

2018-11-16 14:46:53 UTC  

Agreed

2018-11-16 14:47:01 UTC  

One big shitpost

2018-11-16 14:47:09 UTC  

Bad idea