Message from @Capitán Alatriste
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Walls don't work, they simply postpone the problem. Say you build a wall, yes, in the first years illegal crossing will radically drop. But people aren't stupid, if there's money to be made people will find a way. Immigrants will begin to use alternatives, go by sea, under the wall, over the wall (either jumping it, or simply by flying in). Remember that more than half of illegal immigration is overstayed visas.... Walls don't work, they're a temporary solution to a long term/permanent problem
Yeah, the other half is agents
and cameras
and bullets
When the criminals adapt the good guys also adapt so what's your point?
walls is to buy time between detection and interception
@Nordhand same thing with mine fields
So your solution is to build a massive dome over the US and underground eventually
The thing is not everyone is going to want to go the extra mile to bypass a wall. Adding extra barriers will increase the incentive *not* to come
Should companies stop making anti viruses just because criminals keep making better and more efficient malwares?
I guess this guy never landed at a US airport
"But it doesn't work 100% therefore we shouldn't do it"
welfare is garbage
yea even a simple chain link fence helps alot in a lot of places
It's a fight that never ends. Not building a wall is admission of defeat.
yeet that then
Literally ask a border agent @Capitán Alatriste
Ask them
"Does a border wall work?"
A fence is fine, but not a bigger fence
even the EU have it border walls
The EU doesn't have border walls
Wut
There's a picture of one right there
That's a fence
.....
Are your fences that tall?
Damn
Who fucking cares what it's called @Capitán Alatriste
we can always call Israel they are masters of making fucking big walls to keep people in check
Is our proposed border barrier a fence or wall? @Capitán Alatriste
as they did just start building a wall so bad ass it makes trumps wall look like a picket fences
A fence can easily be placed and removed they aren't permanent as a wall. A wall is a testimony of last resort cutting of all other solutions. It's giving into the temptation of the easy way out. A fence is see through, so it's not a hostile action, it represents a semi permeable barrier where the intent is to make it clear that there is a line on the ground
@Fitzydog Your proposed barrier is a wall
Oy vey
@Capitán Alatriste The steel posts in the ground?
20 feet tall steel barrier against it southern border