including the unemployed who are only unemployed because machines made them obsolete

yes

and I say that as someone who can't be replaced without a fricking skynet AI

makes no sense to increase productivity and reducing buying power of the population

someone needs to buy the stuff you can produce so easily now

"get rid of jobs" "don't bring in more jobs or supply anything for those you unemployed to do"

"man why are all these people unhappy and unemployed"

like, if people flooded the trades, we tradesmen would be screwed, because we're only in demand because everyone thinks being a tradesperson is for uneducated artards (since you're supposed to go to university to learn useless garbage instead)

@Angus But then we'd actually have demand for quality labor

nowadays the retards go to university while the smart person learns a trade and makes bank

the only thing required to be a quality labourer is having a good work ethic and protein

yes, bare muscle is the cheapest part of a human he can market

@Angus Oh, I was implying the skilled trades, like electrical and plumbing.

Either you're union, or you're not.

I've seen both do hatchet jobs that look like a horror film

genitals are above that, and actual brain power on the top

you're joe blow labourer probably does about 20% of what someone who actually gives a shit will do

yeah I meant like, literal trades

that you need to apprentice for

yes, a tradecraft is something useful

underappreciated

all the tradesmen around me are nearing retirement

there's 1 other guy but he's 34

yeah in my craft as well, a whole bunch of old farts

so it seems like nobody wants to enter the trades nowadays

want to earn silly amount of money if you have the strength and mind for it, become a tower climber or lineman as they are always in demand everywhere

yeah I don't want a job where the mortality rate is over 1%

otherwise I'd do ocean welding

then become a normal electrician and specialise in low voltage alarm systems. you will have like 250 days of travel each year from all the jobs

"low voltage" "anywhere from 25-699v"

I love that definition

feels like I'd be elbowing into someone else's territory

well it not the voltage that kills you it the ampere

Wait, isn't 480 usually listed as High voltage?

Oh, wait, ignore me

(This is why I'm not an electrician.)

in the canadian code it's 700v

according to wikipedia it's 1000v

I think I'll believe the updated 2019 code book though

still alarm systems are not the kind that kills you, it like working on a IT network cables and voltage

I just remembered that the 24v system I work on is labelled "high voltage" lol

wtf

what country?

US. It's 24v AC