Message from @Banks=Gay
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Human history. Check any time a state collapses
And before any existed
I disagree, but I'm also not advocating for violent overthrow or collapse of any sort, which leads to failures in infrastructure and trade
Then how would you ever remove a state?
If a state is just violence surely you must destroy it in kind
It would be the moral and pragmatic thing to do
in 99% of most people's lives, the state has no impact on what goes on, other than being a minor nuisance
What's the difference if it just didn't exist?
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if the "government" were nothing more than the military, with the amount of name recognition you'd have with something like ADT, or your bank
99%? Dont pull numbers out your ass man. Government is all pervasive in almost everyone's life. Should it be less? We can talk. But removeing it entirely is not only unreasonably impossible but unlikely to help anyone.
The only problems it solves, are those it brings upon itself.
In your day to day life?
So murderers would catch themselves? Who wouldve thunk
At most, you go to the DMV like once a year. When else do you interact with the govt?
Oh come on, I've posted on here enough about private law you would know my argument for it
The business I work for is subject to government regulation. Pay government taxes. I follow government laws.
These are how I interact with government every day.
If I get robbed, I persecute the offender in a government court following government laws.
Every organization is subect to another organization. No one, nor any entity exists in a vacuum
Enough platitudes. It just muddles the water while saying nothing. I gave you how I interact with government. That's what you asked. If your gonna make a point, then make it.
I've made my point. There's alternatives for everything.
My point: Quit treating the gov't like some sacred cow that can't ever be questioned as to their effectiveness or legitimacy.
Always look for a better alternative.
I never said you couldnt criticize governments effectiveness or legitimacy. Stop dragging out Molineux talking points in contexts they dont apply. Im trying to debate if a complete lack of government would solve anything. I dont think it would. You do. And so far, youve said almost nothing that changes my mind beyond platitudes.
It would solve the constant back and forth nonsense we've been fighting against with authoritarians trying to subvert and undermine the sovereignty of individuals.
It's a temptive tool for people to use against others. It will ALWAYS be a temptation. People will ALWAYS try and twist the rules of the game so that they can more easily win
How to steal memes from Athens 101
kek
Lack of a state = trying to scoop up water with a strainer
or, herding cats lol
It will always be temptation. Correct. So in the anachist utopia, a man would be tempted to get his buddys together and declare himself king of the world, instituting his devine rule on anyone weak enough to be conquered.
OHHH
OHHHH MY GOD
THIS FUCKING HURTS
THE C R I N G E
Yeah, but who's going to be weak enough to be conquered? Seriously, this is north america, not rural Africa
What, are you going to send a raiding party on the subdivision next door? lol
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*WHAT*
Are you serious. How do you thing states became a thing in the first place? Everyone just decided one day they liked taking orders from that jackass fred?
Is Memphis going to declare war on Knoxville?
No. Fred made some friends, and then beat everyone who didnt like him to death.
@Banks=Gay That joke isn't entirely wrong, everyone was like **DAMN WE LOVE GEORGE**