or tell the governments of the countries where all this shit is happening to get their act together, impose sanctions, refuse immigrants from their country until they can be trusted

Mexico is fucked up due to the US

not that I disagree

Because the drug cartels finance themselves off the money they make smuggling drugs

@Werlf You wouldn't believe how many US troops are south of the border right now

Stop the drug war

@Fitzydog how many?

And you allow these things to become legitimate

You remove their source of income

@Werlf More than a couple thousand at any one time. 3-4k

jeesh

Also I know this is more of a China think

Deincentivize the outsourcing of labor

And

Enforce minimum wage laws for workers, even immigrants

I don't see how any of this undermines how well a wall can help

There are companies hiring immigrants for cheap

Because all it takes is a tunnel

I hate the argument that we need to allow illegal aliens into the country so they can do the jobs Americans don't want to

You do know how these walls work right?

I don't want a poor Serf class

And I believe most immigrants are smuggled through check points anyways

Like, you've seen the prototypes?

I can only take so much retardation in one day from this guy.

"We can't stop immigration entirely, so we shouldn't try!!"

oof speaking about the functionality of walls, I watched a video of a dude kicking a panel out of a concrete wall and the higher panels slide down to fill the gap - on his leg <:oof:494878589406150657> <:oof:494878589406150657> <:oof:494878589406150657>

Why is this faggot still here?

I’m giving you effective solutions to stopping immigration

@galesteppes Because our mods have feelings

@Fitzydog jdm would take care of this guy in the old days

I think it's good to keep people like @Mint Maka in this discord

breaks up the echo chamber

Disagree

@Mint Maka There are 10 THOUSAND people about to be in Tiajuana right now, and you think some glorified fence will stop these people from crossing the border on food in the middle of the night?

the only reason Americans don't want the jobs illegal aliens do is from social dumbing of the wages from said jobs. why pay a normal wage when you can play a illegal worker a few pennies and when he complains you just dump his ass in gutter for ICE

https://youtu.be/LrHPwIwdFfo not really safe for work

Eliminate minimum wage

ouch

Is the wall not a glorified fence?

@Fitzydog no

@Mint Maka Like I said, look at the prototypes

I like the idea of anyone being able to have a job since jobs won't be outsourced