Message from @Michael

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2017-12-22 22:45:46 UTC  

I like him

2017-12-22 22:46:13 UTC  

Is The Holy Reich a good document to read on this subject or does it cover alternative material? I'm more interested in a NS understanding of the OT.

2017-12-22 22:46:32 UTC  

The irony is Haunakkah just ended

2017-12-22 22:46:40 UTC  

Hanuakkah was the last time Jesus presented himself to the Jews

2017-12-22 22:46:43 UTC  

until Passover

2017-12-22 22:46:46 UTC  

when he was crucified

2017-12-22 22:46:50 UTC  

It has a lot of translated works making the case that NS was a Christian movement and understanding the NS view of the OT and NT. @Michael

2017-12-22 22:47:00 UTC  

It is anti-NS, but a very good resource

2017-12-22 22:47:21 UTC  

its in John 10

2017-12-22 22:47:31 UTC  

John 10 is Jesus Christs Haunakkah Sermon

2017-12-22 22:47:41 UTC  

which he tells them its over

2017-12-22 22:47:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/393897488844849152/25498512_532594973777472_2193741812939145777_n.png

2017-12-22 22:48:02 UTC  

10:22 in John

2017-12-22 22:48:10 UTC  

thats the start of the Hanukkah sermon

2017-12-22 22:48:16 UTC  

they didnt like it either

2017-12-22 22:48:31 UTC  

The Feast of Dedication-Hanuakkah

2017-12-22 22:48:38 UTC  

And for a Christian Church Father, respected by all High Church denominations, Saint John Chrysostom's 8 Homilies Against the Jews are a great resource. http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/chrysostom_adversus_judaeos_01_homily1.htm

2017-12-22 22:49:13 UTC  

Well I was lucky I was raised with the PROPER understanding about Israel being lost

2017-12-22 22:49:26 UTC  

the New Israel the Israel of God as Justin Martyr I beleieve called the Church

2017-12-22 22:49:29 UTC  

is Israel today

2017-12-22 22:49:30 UTC  

@MatthewHeimbach Thanks, I have that written down. I'm currently an agnostic but I come from a Christian background; if I can come to reconcile the OT and NS it would overcome a lot of burdens for me. The 'death of God' was not a thing I took pleasure in, I would rather be a Christian but there are some unanswered questions.

2017-12-22 22:49:34 UTC  

physical Israels over

2017-12-22 22:49:38 UTC  

Spiritual Israels here

2017-12-22 22:49:58 UTC  

@Michael I hear ya man. I used to be a fedora tipping atheist myself

2017-12-22 22:50:23 UTC  

Matt have you ever tried to study that history from after the failed War of Southern Independence to about WWII

2017-12-22 22:50:34 UTC  

to understand why Christianity went into such freefall decline in America?

2017-12-22 22:50:38 UTC  

thats kinda my thing, lol

2017-12-22 22:50:40 UTC  

its a hard study and Ive done it

2017-12-22 22:50:54 UTC  

and it really makes no sense why it seemed like Christianity just croaked

2017-12-22 22:51:18 UTC  

America was founded as a Masonic low church nation

2017-12-22 22:51:38 UTC  

The church and State must work hand in hand, thats why in Orthodoxy we have the double headed eagle. One head is the Church, one is the State, the body is the folk

2017-12-22 22:51:55 UTC  

In America, the low church protestant traditions had no relationship like that

2017-12-22 22:52:09 UTC  

Without a hierarchy to keep out bad ideas, heresy can run amock

2017-12-22 22:52:12 UTC  

Here's one I would like to toss out. In seminary I wrote papers on the Armenian Apostolic Church. The first nation to officially convert to Christianity, if I recall. What is our take on their denomination and ethnic group?

2017-12-22 22:52:25 UTC  

Here's an interesting one. Go back and read the Abolitionists and heres what you find. Everything they did, albeit wrong and misguided

2017-12-22 22:52:30 UTC  

came from a Christian standpoint

2017-12-22 22:52:35 UTC  

a misguided one but Christian

2017-12-22 22:52:43 UTC  

It came from a low church tradition, tied with calvinism

2017-12-22 22:52:45 UTC  

their perverted Christian standpoint

2017-12-22 22:52:49 UTC  

yes thats what i meant

2017-12-22 22:52:55 UTC  

low church perversion