Bullet Hells have a lot of skippable dialog. you can play the game a hundred times and never read it, then maybe after you like the game youll care to read the story

yeah thats a good approach

yup

always probably the best approach is to make it skippable

some of them have a dedicated Skip button that does nothing else but skip cutscenes

you can skip cutscenes in SA, but they still feel obtrusive

obtuse and intrusive

games do not need to be art IMHO--they already contain it

yea

well they can be art if it sells

but if not, then well

i honestly dont care much about the art debate

masterful difficulty tuning *is* art

the 'games are art' crowd wants them to be taken seriously for whatever reason

but ultimately, its just going to be citizen kane getting low sales

well i think the story and games as art arguments collide at some point

the issue with movies

if they want it to be art *more* i would assume theyll add more story

PS i dont play Metal Gear Solid i dont like it

if it's made with the intent to be art it's really hard to say it's not

unless it's gay

bullet art is bliss

thats how you make the art the gameplay itself

Meh, games aren't art. Some are, but not all

I know, lets add intrusive story, that has inconsistent art and animation, and bad voice acting

but hey, it's skippable

but there's still a loading bar in between cut scenes

which you can't skip

but o well, games are resource intensive nowadays

i dont think almost any game needs voice dialog

grunts and deathscreams only

i dont mind something like the PA reading announcements when you walk through a hall

thats a good way to inject story, real passive

i dont mind voice acting, just make it good and consistent with what is occurring in the game

Totally non-controversial statement: Borderlands is the best game series ever.

eg. Don't have them say "Did you bring that thing I told you to get? You better have it."

borderlands gameplay sucks ass and the art is amazing

like you have to go through that line before delivering quest item

well gameplay should come before art always

What's wrong with the gameplay?

i think VA is a waste of money tbh because im then getting less gameplay