Message from @Odalman

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2017-12-26 03:44:10 UTC  

its to be read and understood WITHIN the church

2017-12-26 03:44:40 UTC  

so without the church to ground you, youre just barreling off into the wilderness

2017-12-26 03:45:07 UTC  

Yeah

2017-12-26 03:46:36 UTC  

Growing up in the Pentecostal movement, i've seen how poorly interpreted scripture can ruin lives.

2017-12-26 03:46:51 UTC  

It just takes one jackass to ruin Christianity in protestantism

2017-12-26 03:46:57 UTC  

Each protestant pastor is his own Pope

2017-12-26 03:47:08 UTC  

In Orthodoxy, the clergy are held to hierarchy and tradition

2017-12-26 03:47:17 UTC  

Matt what was your religious tradition before Orthodoxy?

2017-12-26 03:47:22 UTC  

Catholic

2017-12-26 03:47:26 UTC  

oh ok

2017-12-26 03:47:30 UTC  

that makes sense

2017-12-26 03:47:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274535531927568384/395060145102520320/3326216373_dd22df1b35_z.jpg

2017-12-26 03:48:42 UTC  

My grand parents, while not terrible people, were convinced by the Word of Faith movement. Which was started by Kenneth Hagin.

2017-12-26 03:49:06 UTC  

lots of good people get led into some goofy stuff, my wife grew up Seventh Day Adventist Church of God

2017-12-26 03:49:28 UTC  

I've seen a lot of terrible things in the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement.

2017-12-26 03:49:58 UTC  

I even worked in a mega-church in my late teens.

2017-12-26 03:50:04 UTC  

Saw a lot of corruption there.

2017-12-26 03:50:17 UTC  

yeah, if clergy arent held to a vow of poverty, i instantly discount them tbh

2017-12-26 03:50:25 UTC  

Million dollar deals behind closed doors while the church members lived off welfare.

2017-12-26 03:50:44 UTC  

While asking the church members for more money.

2017-12-26 03:50:45 UTC  

Ha

2017-12-26 03:51:14 UTC  

"IF YOU ONLY GIVE MORE OF YOUR PAYCHECK, GOD WILL BLESS YOU AND YOU TOO CAN BE A MILLIONARE FOR CHRIST!!!"

2017-12-26 03:51:23 UTC  

the reason Roman priests wear collars, something I like, is because it marks them as a servant of not only God, but of the people. Clergy are to serve, the people do not serve the clergy

2017-12-26 03:51:42 UTC  

most Orthodox priests have a real day job

2017-12-26 03:52:18 UTC  

monks in monasteries make furniture, paint icons, grow a lot of their own food, do odd jobs for the townspeople etc

2017-12-26 03:52:30 UTC  

Clergy are to serve, in poverty and chastity

2017-12-26 03:52:41 UTC  

I've always admired that kind of clergy.

2017-12-26 03:53:01 UTC  

its the only legitimate kind

2017-12-26 03:53:10 UTC  

Surely.

2017-12-26 03:53:18 UTC  

Russian Orthodoxy ftw

2017-12-26 03:53:20 UTC  

heh

2017-12-26 03:53:24 UTC  

truth

2017-12-26 03:53:30 UTC  

Third Rome or bust

2017-12-26 03:53:34 UTC  

^

2017-12-26 03:54:18 UTC  

Idk the first 2 romes were pretty LIT too

2017-12-26 03:54:22 UTC  

It's rather sad, I watch a lot of these Pentecostal people wait around for the Pre-Trib rapture to take place while doing little to nothing for their community.

2017-12-26 03:54:34 UTC  

the rapture is the biggest bullshit heresy i can imagine

2017-12-26 03:54:35 UTC  

Why invest in your locality if Jesus is coming back any day now?

2017-12-26 03:54:43 UTC  

exactly, its fucking crazy

2017-12-26 03:54:49 UTC  

and has ZERO BIBLICAL BASIS

2017-12-26 03:54:50 UTC  

at all