Message from @Hadrian
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Child labor, unsafe working conditions, no protections
As opposed to what
As opposed to these workers having some level of freedom and self determination.
They have the freedom to work there or not to
Or to start their own factory
With what capital
Capital is created
When you're just a few paychecks away from starving, starting your own factory is not even remotely an option
You can't simply create the wealth or funds required to build capital
So you can work for someone else or be self employed and save up money to start your own business
This was what the majority of business owners did. The alternative was to be self sufficient and live in what was objectively poverty, living off the land
It was legal rulings and governments mandates that at the time were considered socialistic that put an end to such practices
So, you can live off the land, or work for someone else & work your way up. How is that bad?
What land?
There was not a ladder to work yourself up. How do you work your way up on employee vouchers
The land you don't own?
At one point, child labor laws were considered socialism
Jones, I'm not aware of any companies doing this anymore
Refer to my above statements
Why do you think they don't do it anymore?
Because another company will come along & offer them a better form of payment
Did somebody let a Libertarian into the TWP server?
No, because the government mandated a wage in US dollars
People came to work for Henry Ford because he paid more, they did this voluntarily
Why would they have to, if their buddy in big oil company 1 is doing it. What motivation does big oil company 2 have to improve the situation
Not just a Libertarian, seems like an ancap
Why not collude together to keep the workers under their yoke
Jones, they don't have to work for an oil company
Venezuela is socialism
I know it's accelerated by brown people
But every socialist policy always fails
Social security will run out by 2030
Venezuela is *Marxian* socialism
So will Medicare
Venezuela failed because they focused their entire company around the export of Oil
Welfare and big government in any dorm is socialist
And when the Oil prices crashed in 2015, which mind you also effected many oil companies in primarily capitalist countries, this effected them deeply
There are different types of socialism. There's is communist. Ours is economic Third Position
You're pointing towards one aspect of the Venuzuelian economy and ignoring others
Alberta is a fairly capiatalistic province of Canada that faced pretty high unemployment during this time as well because their local economy was built on oil