Messages from @Klutch (Discord ID: 274664705514012673)
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Hi guys. I plan on attending tomorrow. I'm coming from Sevierville. Does anyone in East TN need a ride?
I suppose I should post this in the Shelbyville tag, my bad
5 star review left. He's friends with Sam Dickson (also an attorney)
Please can someone forward the email to me? [email protected]
They can claim whatever they want. The rally was a success. No violence. We are shifting the Overton window
Pissing off local law enforcement by wasting their time probably isn't helpful. Though doing it to antifa surely is
I believe it's a reference to his inept handling of the Charlottesville rally.
Congrats on custody of your nephew. My parents got custody of their grandson (my nephew) and I watch him every week
Meaning the guy that was apprehended. I was confused about that whole situation
John, I'm in Sevierville. I DM'd you, I'd be glad to protest with you
I wish it was "faith, family and freedom". Folk & family are too similar, and I'd rather be living in multicultural America than communist homogeneous Russia. But the best would be homogeneous America
Why is using Israel as justification a bad argument?
I'm not saying we emulate Israel. But using them as justification for normies has been effective for me. "Israel is for Jews, Japan for Japanese, why don't whites deserve equality?"
Yeah good luck getting normies to support the 4th Reich
Kombat, I didn't suggest we emulate Israel. I said we should use them as justification. No one can say why Jews deserve their own ethnostate but whites don't
Also. I've been to Israel. It's a pretty successful country. Probably due to the fact they get billions in "aid" from white goyim, but still, it was a nice country. Antisemitism is unpalatable to the masses and it's not helpful in achieving our goals
"I'm busy for the next 5 weeks" then why are you on a dating site?
Hahaha. My dad signed me up for farmers only (just to troll me)
Someone earlier mentioned putting up a 10ft tall George Lincoln Rockwell statue near a busy highway. I own property that fronts a major highway (25K people pass it daily) that would be glorious, although detrimental to my business
If making memes, spell it "Okay" not "OK", because the left is pushing the narrative that "OK" is racist
Plus, good luck reading braille on a flat sticker
Or, you know, let the coal burner pay the toll. No need to interfere & put liability on yourself
Socialist Europe isn't accelerating its destruction?
The majority of the migrants wouldn't be there if not for gibs
Massive government, massive taxation, massive welfare state
I'm not trying to argue in a hostile way, I want to know what you mean by socialist
Under capitalism, the only way to get rich is by giving people products and services they want. Under socialism, you can be an asshole and the government will still subsidize you
Well, I have a 1.3m loan from a bank. I used it to buy a 20 unit apartment complex. I'm providing housing for 20 people, they voluntarily give me money each month, I voluntarily pay the bank interest, and I still make a profit. Everyone wins
We wouldn't have so many banks and they wouldn't be nearly this large, if not for the federal reserve, which was created by the government
A fair price is whatever someone is willing to pay
And they let Jews become Bankers and here we are. Banning usury was a mistake. But that's another issue
What do you mean by desperate? If the rent is too high, they can move to a less nice apartment
I appreciate being called a slum lord. Lol.
Okay, so me and 4 other landlords decide to all raise our rents. So an entrepreneur comes along, sees a demand for affordable housing, buys/builds apartments and charges lower rent. Me and the other "greedy" landlords lose all our tenants and we're out of business
If we remove form government the power to block business and grant monopolies then that problem won't arise
If you own land, you should be able to do whatever you want with it, with the exception of any covenants you've entered into. For example, if I buy a home in an explicitly all white/Anglo neighborhood, I can't sell my home to any non whites
All of that is voluntary and doesn't require government force
You don't make a profit without giving people something they want
Because they're white and they provide for themselves
"a luxury once enjoyed brclmrd a necessity" internet I'd now a necessity. So is air conditioning. A cell phone, etc
Hadrian, lots of people did this to work in factories, etc
Which should be fought against. And local thugs are a lot easier to fight against than the federal government
If we eliminate the government (or most of its power) then that disappears. If it comes back in some other form then we should fight that, also
Factory owners can't force government to take land from farmers
That happens much less often , and I agree, it shouldn't happen either, but government does it far more
We have crony capitalism. Government interferes constantly. America was wealthier and there was far less poverty before the welfare state
Jones, you shouldn't think of yourself as a peasant. You should look at how wealthy people acquired their money and do it yourself
9 out of 10 millionaires in America are self made, meaning they didn't inherit it
So what he did was not only illegal but unethical
So you can work for someone else or be self employed and save up money to start your own business
So, you can live off the land, or work for someone else & work your way up. How is that bad?
Jones, I'm not aware of any companies doing this anymore
Because another company will come along & offer them a better form of payment
People came to work for Henry Ford because he paid more, they did this voluntarily
Jones, they don't have to work for an oil company
Welfare and big government in any dorm is socialist
Building your society around one product is risky
What happens when oil prices fall, is resources leave oil and will go to more profitable ventures
By what mechanism are they preventing other sources of energy
Would you agree that a large portion of welfare recipients in America are parasites
Meaning they are able and capable of working but they don't because why bother
Most welfare recipients are non white. They aren't parasites?
It creates a perverse incentive to not work longer hours & avoid pay raises
If we eliminate welfare, people won't have the possibility to be parasites
Either be productive or starve. If you are a legitimate victim, then private charity can fill in. It's not moral if I'm forced to give money at the point of a gun
You don't need universal healthcare to have healthcare
Everything government currently provides was once provided by private individuals
I agree that any system is going to work better with whites
Hadrian, because we had a much poorer understanding of modern medicine, not because a lack of government. Everyone died young
Because if you offer a magic pill that increases your lifespan 50 years, do you think people would be willing to pay you for that?
Goodnight bro, and thank you for doing your part at repopulating our race
My ideal society is a 100% white ethnostate with maximum freedom. If people want to form a socialist commune within the country, they should be able to, but the libertarian town shouldn't be forced to pay for it
Taxation and welfare is theft and violence, not charity
Jones agrees that debate is good. If mods don't want opposing viewpoints then I'll stop bringing it up.
How is it greed to want to keep the money I earned, but it's not greed to want to take it from me?
In capitalism, it's by providing services people are willing to pay me for
I'd like to reiterate I'm 100% on board with nationalism. And I'd rather live in a socialist all white country than a capitalist multi ethnic society.
The great thing about capitalism is, if you don't think what I'm offering is fair, you don't have to do business with me
I bet if a ceo did that, he would be hated by everyone in society
Who would ostracize him and refuse to offer their business with him
And monopolies only exist when the government creates themv
Why can pharmacy companies charge $500 for one pill? Because government made it illegal for anyone else to make it
Because government stops competition from coming on the scene
Usually when wealth is inherited, it's squandered
I'm not familiar with the history of standard oil
It sounds like he found a way to produce oil more efficiently
Why shouldn't the most efficient corner the market?
Why is it the consumers fault for buying the best price available?
A monopoly only exists if it prevents competition from entering the market. Monopolies only exist because of the government
Lots of people pay more for "made in America" products. If I lived in a white ethnostate I would buy products made locally
If I lived in the 1900s and had the resources to buy land & dig for oil, how would the Rockefeller prevent that?
If it can't compete then he deserves to have a 90% market share. It's what the consumer wants
Between Apple and Samsung, they probably have 90% market share on smartphones . There are alternatives but they have this massive market share because it's what people want
White Americans would be mining our own oil if Obama's government didn't prevent the keystone Xl pipeline. Instead we give our money to Muslims, because government forbids otherwise
That's a modern example and issue caused because of government, not a lack of it
As you said, we are going in circles about standard oil.
1. If he is selling it less expensive than the competition, then the consumer wins
2. If all competition goes away and he jacks up the price, competition will arise again, and the consumer wins
Kombat, the state isn't a tool, no more than rape is a tool
Let me ask you guys something. Marxism is a 100% tax on your production. What is a 70% tax?
If nothing changes, Germany is going to become non white in one generation thanks to a massive state. No one should have that kind of power. The power to steal trillions and import your replacement.
Migrants are coming primarily for the welfare state.
Which is why they cross over countries with smaller social benefits like Poland and turkey and go to Germany, France, Sweden
The mudflood, lol I like that term.
The difference is. A libertarian society would tolerate a socialist commune, but a socialist society would never tolerate a libertarian commune
Lol good point. I want tolerance for freedom among white people.
1. Whites only
2. Keep your contracts
3. Don't initiate violence (self defense is okay)
Let everything else sort itself out
Hadrian, socialism makes you a parasite, you don't have to be responsible, because government will still provide for you.
You have more responsibility under capitalism, because you are the only one responsible for your self and your family
Kombat, socialism isn't Marxism, I never said that. But a 70% tax isn't far-off from a 100% tax.
In America, income tax caps at about 50%, yet that's not enough for "universal healthcare" free housing for all, etc
How much of a tax is needed to provide all this "free" stuff?
By definition. You aren't going to care about efficiency if you're not footing the bill
I hope you would consider Jared Taylor a white nationalist. There's a video of him saying privatization of most or all government industries is favorable
I'm unable to find the video of Jared talking about privatization, that's unfortunate. Anyhow, I enjoyed the discussion, goys.
I think he's done more for our movement than anyone else alive.
I agree 100% with nationalism, but I can never support the violence of the welfare state and the perverse incentives it creates.
Out of curiosity, would you guys prefer living in a natcap society as opposed to modern day America?
A white country with free market capitalism (aka 1950s America) okay cool
And I've been aware and a supporter of the "movement" for about 7 years.
I am a white advocate above anything else. Which is why I said I'd rather live in a socialist white country than free market multiculturalism
Lol thanks. I'm half Italian though so if the criteria is 100% Anglo then I fail there also
I still prefer him than any of the feasible alternatives
Meaning Hillary, Bernie or any of the republican cucks that ran
Do you think Jews pick who gets to be president? Come on now. I know there is meddling and voter fraud (by democrats), but even with all of that, Trump still won
It depends on what you mean by the Jewish question
I understand they are powerful and working against our interests
I understand their role in the decay of our society
You're orthodox, right Matt? Jesus was a Jew, wasn't he?
Jews seem to be the eternal enemy of white people, but I'm not sure about all humanity
Bitching about Jews keeping the white man down isn't much different from blacks bitching about whites
We need to look inwards instead of blaming things on external sources
Fevs, something like 35 out of 36 Jewish congressman and senators are democrats
I'm not a republican, but Jews are overwhelmingly Democrat
AmRen maxed out the capacity this year. I've been there the last 3 years, and actually I met you at one, Matt. Jared Taylor is an ally, everyone who supports white interests is an ally
Jared avoids answering the jq because it's unpalatable to most people
Ethnically Jesus was a Jew.. He didn't act like the majority of Jews and the (((pharisees))) hated him for that.
At 3:20 Jared admits Jews are our enemy. Https://youtu.be/0UEsVrVbXKg
And I hope to attend future rally's with you guys and other pro white groups
Thank you white goy, that is exactly my position.
It depends on what you mean by the Jewish Question
I agree they are behind the 1965 immigration act. Communism. Feminism. Gay rights. Pedophilia. White privilege BS, etc
I do understand, I'm not sure why people are claiming I don't. Lol
I don't think it's helpful to talk about it, I suppose.
We have made more progress in the last 7 years than in the last several decades
Trump does bait them. He constantly calls out the (((media)))
Trump is a civic nationalist, but that doesn't mean he can't implement policies in our favor
^like the NFL thing. Or making people distrust the media & Hollywood
Illegal immigration is way down. He's fighting for the travel ban. And also the wall is happening
Cernovich is lying. I was in the original thread. It was a guy talking about anything white will trigger leftists
I wonder how long after they find out it was a Muslim (or black or Mexican) will they sit on the info
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