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But that said still Irish
Most prominent Irishmen
Aren’t Irish
False
An Irish girl wrote an article on it
Hold on
EVEN FUCKING GUINESS ISN’T IRISH
”furthermore, whenever you hear about some famous “irish” person, like a scientist or an author, they’re more than likely to have anglo-irish or scots-irish ancestry.
for instance, if you look at this list on wikipedia of famous “irish” scientists (*chuckle*), the vast majority are or were either of scots-irish, old english, or anglo-irish background, not native irish. one or two were even partly or fully of some other ethnic background(s) (i.e. french huguenot and sephardic jewish). i can pick out only seven who are likely candidates for having a (mostly) native irish background: louis brennan, pádraig de brún, nicholas callan, aeneas coffey, richard kirwan (“one of the last supporters of the theory of phlogiston”), william dargan, and john philip holland — and i’m not so sure about dargan or holland (both of those surnames could be either british or irish). so that’s five to seven native irish out of a list of forty “irish”, and i bet most of you have never heard of any of them.”
Michael Collins
”and if we look at “irish” nobel laureates (heh — yes, there have been a couple!), of the science ones, we’ve got ernest walton (physics, 1951) aaaaaand…no, sorry, that’s it. ernest walton. needless to say, walton is an old anglo-saxon name, and ernest’s father was a methodist minister, so probably not very native irish. (maybe there are some native irish laureates in amongst the u.s. or canadian or australian winners. i didn’t get around to checking that.)
and all those famous irish authors? w.b. yeats? anglo-irish. oscar wilde? anglo-irish. bernard shaw? anglo-irish. jonathan swift? anglo-irish. samuel beckett? anglo-irish. bram stoker? anglo-irish. j.m. synge? anglo-irish. clearly overrepresented. (not that there’s anything wrong with that!)”
Cope
Built his republic, defeated an empire and crushed a civil war
Harder
Hold on
Before he was even in his middle age
Or Bill Massey
PM of the Dominion of New Zealand
Who established her ethnic nationalist immigration standards and created real estate freehold standards in the country
Lead her through the first world war as well
First of all
”Massey Name Meaning. English and Scottish (of Norman origin) and French: habitational name from any of various places in northern France which get their names from the Gallo-Roman personal name Maccius + the locative suffix -acum. English (of Norman origin): habitational name from Marcy in La Manche.”
So not fully Irish most likely
But sure
Those two
I’ll give you those
BUT
It's the same thing, there are hardly any people from the isles or in the diaspora who couldn't claim ancestry from several parts of it
The most influential and prominent Irish individuals
Ulysses Grant
Weren’t Irish
President of the U.S. Republic
Leader of the Union army
Emancipator of slaves
Even banned Jews from the south
Grant
Was a cuck
John Curtin
First of all
PM of the Dominion of Australia