Message from @Leaf

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2019-12-07 02:04:09 UTC  

or violence

2019-12-07 02:04:24 UTC  

all of these measures are negatively impacted with mass immigration

2019-12-07 02:07:10 UTC  

Personally for me, I prefer my Kin and ethnic group. I want people that are more related to me to survive and do well. I want my family, community and nation to grow. And we need space and territory to do that, we shouldn’t be forced to mix.

Nation States are on top of plots of land which have a max carrying capacity. If it must reach that maximum, I want it to be people who are my extended family. That’s my personal reason for wanting a ethnostate

2019-12-07 02:07:17 UTC  

Or one of the reasons

2019-12-07 02:07:38 UTC  

I also want a government run by people who have more in common with me, same with institutions

2019-12-07 02:07:58 UTC  

I want to live in a culture that is mine

2019-12-07 02:08:22 UTC  

A society built by and for my people

2019-12-07 02:08:55 UTC  

sure, for some people it is to preserver their heritage/culture. For me it is to have a better society. What people value depends on their race/heritage and the society reflects this. People want a society that values what they do. Also I don't want the livelihoods of the native populace being undermined by hordes of low cheap labor

2019-12-07 02:09:14 UTC  

Mine is mostly an economic concern, as well as political stability

2019-12-07 02:09:32 UTC  

also immigrants are gigantic leaches on the system

2019-12-07 02:10:45 UTC  

It has very little to do with skin color

2019-12-07 02:10:57 UTC  

It has a lot to do with behavior

2019-12-07 03:18:40 UTC  

I bet american white nationalists are going to disagree with me on this but I feel like muslim immigration in Europe is a lot more worrysome than hispanic immigration in the US.

2019-12-07 03:19:50 UTC  

I don't know what the numbers are exactly, but I feel like the cultural difference between like, south texas and north mexico is not nearly as big as the difference between England and Pakistan.

2019-12-07 03:20:20 UTC  

The important difference is numbers

2019-12-07 03:20:33 UTC  

Strong cultural divides inspire more hasty rejection as well, it's not a bad thing

2019-12-07 03:20:56 UTC  

you think there will be a race war in europe?

2019-12-07 03:21:36 UTC  

Maybe

2019-12-07 03:21:37 UTC  

Idk

2019-12-07 03:21:59 UTC  

The Europeans on the continent seem to be having a much more rapid response than the Americans have had in the last few hundred years

2019-12-07 03:22:09 UTC  

If it gets bad enough, they seem the types to get violent

2019-12-07 03:22:26 UTC  

lol

2019-12-07 03:22:33 UTC  

Already seeing it in the main port regions of Europe

2019-12-07 03:22:39 UTC  

Italy and Greece especially

2019-12-07 03:22:49 UTC  

Somewhat in Spain as well, although much less notable reaction

2019-12-07 03:22:59 UTC  

The French have been rioting for like

2019-12-07 03:23:03 UTC  

Idk a year or something now lol

2019-12-07 03:26:23 UTC  

I think one of my main gripes with immigration is how its basically irriversible by usual means

2019-12-07 03:26:51 UTC  

Like, lets say for some reason people decide to vote for something stupid.

2019-12-07 03:26:58 UTC  

Most of the time they could vote to reverse it.

2019-12-07 03:27:27 UTC  

But aside from closing the border liberal democracies don't really have a way to reverse immigration.

2019-12-07 03:27:57 UTC  

I think part of the problem is like, people don't feel the effects of immigration for a while.

2019-12-07 03:28:34 UTC  

for better or for worse It can take decades for an immigration policy to take its toll and when its done its done.

2019-12-07 03:37:00 UTC  

We do

2019-12-07 03:37:08 UTC  

There are legal mechanisms to repeal citizenship

2019-12-07 03:37:19 UTC  

They still do it for old fucks who served in the SS in America

2019-12-07 03:37:21 UTC  

For example

2019-12-07 03:37:28 UTC  

It's just not likely to happen

2019-12-07 03:37:51 UTC  

Sargon types will stand in the way

2019-12-07 03:38:13 UTC  

But yeah it's hard to undo so

2019-12-07 03:38:19 UTC  

Best to avoid the problem altogether