@Ed I'm sorry are you talking about the state?

the chief in the tribe
would take all complaints
and confiscate your land or force you to pay a fee.
if you break a promise

also the private armies everyone else has

maybe the McNukes when we get that far

The insurance companies and defense firms wont like it either

@Chawosaurian

If you promise something and break your promise.
The tribe had a chief
and he would force you to pay a fee
or otherwise compensate

they will fight to the teeth against any rich guy that tries

what stops a rich race of subversive and highly ethnocentric people from gaining control of our media, news, legal, and educational system and subverting our society to replace us and serve their own interests?

its their clients

they need to protect them

@fuguer I'm sorry are you talking about redheads?

you are just such a sucidial dead wight

cope

project

adapt

this is just a hypothetical question

well the last one you wont do stubborn potato

how would your ideal society avoid such a problem

hmm

you

> if you are dishonest nobodies gonna trade with you
@Chawosaurian

You're presuming perfect transmission of information between individuals

You can maintain a good overall reputation
While breaking a couple of contracts here and there

Even more so if you own media companies that spread corporate propaganda

@Chawosaurian

you are the person who think that he can defend his home with a gun
and who votes against more money to the police

so a bunch of people trade with you and they will come back at trading with you because your propaganda said you didnt stael from them?

also we dont need perfect transmission

@Ed
Honor was enforce by the chief,
the chief is STATE

those who are dishonest will be less competitive than the honest ones and get weeded out

tribes are states,

Was just watching the live broadcast of the "Overwatch League"
There is a team playing called "London Spitfire"
The entire roster of the team is composed of Koreans

the tribes had chiefs and sometimes
specialized lawmakers for different laws

being just less competitive is already a problem

Identity

Is a commodity

they dont need 0 trade just much less trade

also of course

you are not less competitive
because the state exists

> @Ed
> Honor was enforce by the chief,
> the chief is STATE
@virtue
Yup
An ethical monopoly on the use of force

we can boost the transmission of said information

we shouldnt pretend that we are hopeless creatures that cant just do things like improve transmission of basic information

nothing ethical about it kek

@Ed
well, the force thing is only part of many other traits.
Humans need states because
individuals cannot separate natural disaster
from murder.

usurpation of natural functions that should be open to those who are able to wield it is not ethical at all