Message from @stem

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2019-10-23 14:00:45 UTC  

a new generation would move west and settle

2019-10-23 14:00:51 UTC  

when it became possible to separate geographically and economically, the familial bonds that were previously necessitated broke apart

2019-10-23 14:01:06 UTC  

people had to live closer together

2019-10-23 14:01:10 UTC  

they needed each other

2019-10-23 14:01:15 UTC  

and it was harder to move

2019-10-23 14:01:26 UTC  

and less reason to move because less free economy and less opportunity

2019-10-23 14:01:31 UTC  

and harder transportation

2019-10-23 14:01:41 UTC  

they didn't live together

2019-10-23 14:01:43 UTC  

hmm

2019-10-23 14:01:47 UTC  

your link doesn't show that they lived in the same house

2019-10-23 14:01:52 UTC  

in fact, it shows they did not

2019-10-23 14:01:54 UTC  

if you read it

2019-10-23 14:01:55 UTC  

what research is this even based on

2019-10-23 14:02:05 UTC  

People in the colonial territories were faced with mass hostility from foreign peoples at every turn in the form of the natives and also suffered severe resource and labour scarcities which most likely would have emphasised the importance of the extended family unit, rather than diminished it

2019-10-23 14:02:10 UTC  
2019-10-23 14:02:13 UTC  

the point is, what do you think changed?

2019-10-23 14:02:22 UTC  

clearly the material circumstances

2019-10-23 14:02:30 UTC  

you're not understanding what I'm saying

2019-10-23 14:02:33 UTC  

do you think they became genetically less family oriented?

2019-10-23 14:02:37 UTC  

you wouldn't move with your father to the west

2019-10-23 14:02:39 UTC  

what are you trying to say?

2019-10-23 14:02:41 UTC  

absolute nuclear family never was a thing historically

2019-10-23 14:02:42 UTC  

Yes I am, I just think you overestimate the frequency of it's happening

2019-10-23 14:02:47 UTC  

you would go with your wife, and children if you had them

2019-10-23 14:02:47 UTC  

peopel all work on a farm

2019-10-23 14:02:49 UTC  

Family units migrated together generally, not in parts

2019-10-23 14:02:49 UTC  

and live together

2019-10-23 14:02:52 UTC  

no, old people were not moving west

2019-10-23 14:02:58 UTC  

family unit yes

2019-10-23 14:03:02 UTC  

"evolutionary behavior" is not at all clear

2019-10-23 14:03:02 UTC  

but how large of a family unit

2019-10-23 14:03:05 UTC  

The average life span wasn't that high even lol

2019-10-23 14:03:10 UTC  

one brother stayed in the original territory

2019-10-23 14:03:19 UTC  

Usually was not the case

2019-10-23 14:03:24 UTC  

life span stats are misleading, they include a lot of infant and childhood mortality

2019-10-23 14:03:24 UTC  

especially when you drastically cahnged the environment, then "evolutionary behavior" doesn't help much to predict what happens

2019-10-23 14:03:24 UTC  

well you mean amalgamation of families basicaly handrubbing,yeah for sure

2019-10-23 14:03:31 UTC  

we need a Chinese/Japanese clan system

2019-10-23 14:03:39 UTC  

if you made it to 22 you would be likely to live quite a long time

2019-10-23 14:03:43 UTC  

My entire family spent the last thousand years of their history living on just three islands

2019-10-23 14:03:50 UTC  

what may have evolved will no longer be beneficial in a drastically different environment