Message from @stem

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2019-10-23 13:58:21 UTC  

The nuclear family was the first step in a great decline

2019-10-23 13:58:35 UTC  

its the same as with warfare, the true war cost peak 50 years after the war or so

2019-10-23 13:58:40 UTC  

ah pretty much everyone is

2019-10-23 13:58:59 UTC  

Building strong, large familial units is the cornerstone to the future though

2019-10-23 13:59:03 UTC  

The English have the highest concentration of traditional families in Europe.

2019-10-23 13:59:06 UTC  

So at least we can work based on that

2019-10-23 13:59:21 UTC  

so you can estimate whats in store for usa

2019-10-23 13:59:31 UTC  

the thing is, i was half joking before, but the coldness has probably always been there

2019-10-23 13:59:41 UTC  

people did not move as far away from each other back in the day

2019-10-23 13:59:44 UTC  

a map of single motherhood in the world would be interesting right now

2019-10-23 13:59:55 UTC  

or get as disconnected due to limited economic opportunity

2019-10-23 13:59:57 UTC  

part of it was the colonial factor

2019-10-23 14:00:14 UTC  

in North America we had a large land area to colonize

2019-10-23 14:00:19 UTC  

so they stayed together more out of necessity and because it was easier

2019-10-23 14:00:24 UTC  

north west of france eh,make sense

2019-10-23 14:00:27 UTC  

that in part drove the nuclear family

2019-10-23 14:00:45 UTC  

a new generation would move west and settle

2019-10-23 14:00:51 UTC  

when it became possible to separate geographically and economically, the familial bonds that were previously necessitated broke apart

2019-10-23 14:01:06 UTC  

people had to live closer together

2019-10-23 14:01:10 UTC  

they needed each other

2019-10-23 14:01:15 UTC  

and it was harder to move

2019-10-23 14:01:26 UTC  

and less reason to move because less free economy and less opportunity

2019-10-23 14:01:31 UTC  

and harder transportation

2019-10-23 14:01:41 UTC  

they didn't live together

2019-10-23 14:01:43 UTC  

hmm

2019-10-23 14:01:47 UTC  

your link doesn't show that they lived in the same house

2019-10-23 14:01:52 UTC  

in fact, it shows they did not

2019-10-23 14:01:54 UTC  

if you read it

2019-10-23 14:01:55 UTC  

what research is this even based on

2019-10-23 14:02:05 UTC  

People in the colonial territories were faced with mass hostility from foreign peoples at every turn in the form of the natives and also suffered severe resource and labour scarcities which most likely would have emphasised the importance of the extended family unit, rather than diminished it

2019-10-23 14:02:10 UTC  
2019-10-23 14:02:13 UTC  

the point is, what do you think changed?

2019-10-23 14:02:22 UTC  

clearly the material circumstances

2019-10-23 14:02:30 UTC  

you're not understanding what I'm saying

2019-10-23 14:02:33 UTC  

do you think they became genetically less family oriented?

2019-10-23 14:02:37 UTC  

you wouldn't move with your father to the west

2019-10-23 14:02:39 UTC  

what are you trying to say?

2019-10-23 14:02:41 UTC  

absolute nuclear family never was a thing historically

2019-10-23 14:02:42 UTC  

Yes I am, I just think you overestimate the frequency of it's happening

2019-10-23 14:02:47 UTC  

you would go with your wife, and children if you had them

2019-10-23 14:02:47 UTC  

peopel all work on a farm