They did

There was a coup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Grand_Mosque_seizure

God blessed the Saudis once they realized they were Jews

A coup yes but the society is no less islamic

Who cares

So how's the abuse of the Take Care Clause looking now?

It was a coup for Islam

Tons of stipulations gumming up and overriding the works? @Nerthulas

https://streamable.com/fya9b

@iippo against some islamic leaders but islam is still in tact

they still circle round mecca

hilarious fight from predominantly black neighborhood

@Eternal Entropy For being too secular

My point being, islam and building a new civilization that includes inovation and science is unattainable unless they leave it behind.

Donald Trump is pretty much fine on it

you can't have both

the trouble is that the injunctions are instant

when the government tries to execute the law

(which is its legal duty)

what I do see taking place within the next 50 years and happening now is the islamic world being sold out on it's values the same way the west did.

And they will liberalize slowly and islam will become a religion of people who talk about it instead of living it

the basic effect of that part of the constitution is really simple

its that it is the responsibility of the government to execute the law

it was the innovation of the Obama administration to not do this

Honestly, in our current situation, if I were president I'd probably use tf out of it

!

It's basically a principle of seeing the executive as the guy/branch with the power to make sure the laws get executed lawfully

micromanage

@Eternal Entropy you are correct

eventually it will lead to a more dysfunctional society as a whole

it also means that its their responsibility, so its a crucial part of the constitution combined with unitary executive (the correct reading) of the constitution

yeah

the executive ***is*** unitary

but

What are you saying the Obama admin was doing?

it ***is*** the responsibility of the executive to take care to execute the law

not executing immigration law

agreed and in such an environment a gaping hole will grow ever wide as society crumbles and morals become a joke. Then will the next big religion fill that hole.

actually this was done during Bush as well

They must have put up arguments how laws were *not* being faithfully executed in order to post up injunctions