Message from @Nerthulas

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2019-10-24 05:48:57 UTC  

@Eternal Entropy For being too secular

2019-10-24 05:49:55 UTC  

My point being, islam and building a new civilization that includes inovation and science is unattainable unless they leave it behind.

2019-10-24 05:49:56 UTC  

Donald Trump is pretty much fine on it

2019-10-24 05:50:02 UTC  

you can't have both

2019-10-24 05:50:18 UTC  

the trouble is that the injunctions are instant

2019-10-24 05:50:27 UTC  

when the government tries to execute the law

2019-10-24 05:50:38 UTC  

(which is its legal duty)

2019-10-24 05:51:05 UTC  

what I do see taking place within the next 50 years and happening now is the islamic world being sold out on it's values the same way the west did.

2019-10-24 05:51:37 UTC  

And they will liberalize slowly and islam will become a religion of people who talk about it instead of living it

2019-10-24 05:51:37 UTC  

the basic effect of that part of the constitution is really simple

2019-10-24 05:51:55 UTC  

its that it is the responsibility of the government to execute the law

2019-10-24 05:52:27 UTC  

it was the innovation of the Obama administration to not do this

2019-10-24 05:52:29 UTC  

Honestly, in our current situation, if I were president I'd probably use tf out of it

2019-10-24 05:53:08 UTC  

!

2019-10-24 05:53:11 UTC  

It's basically a principle of seeing the executive as the guy/branch with the power to make sure the laws get executed lawfully

2019-10-24 05:53:16 UTC  

micromanage

2019-10-24 05:53:23 UTC  

@Eternal Entropy you are correct

2019-10-24 05:53:48 UTC  

eventually it will lead to a more dysfunctional society as a whole

2019-10-24 05:54:00 UTC  

it also means that its their responsibility, so its a crucial part of the constitution combined with unitary executive (the correct reading) of the constitution

2019-10-24 05:54:12 UTC  

yeah

2019-10-24 05:54:12 UTC  

the executive ***is*** unitary

2019-10-24 05:54:13 UTC  

but

2019-10-24 05:54:22 UTC  

What are you saying the Obama admin was doing?

2019-10-24 05:54:29 UTC  

it ***is*** the responsibility of the executive to take care to execute the law

2019-10-24 05:54:35 UTC  

not executing immigration law

2019-10-24 05:54:37 UTC  

agreed and in such an environment a gaping hole will grow ever wide as society crumbles and morals become a joke. Then will the next big religion fill that hole.

2019-10-24 05:54:47 UTC  

actually this was done during Bush as well

2019-10-24 05:54:49 UTC  

They must have put up arguments how laws were *not* being faithfully executed in order to post up injunctions

2019-10-24 05:54:51 UTC  

Right?

2019-10-24 05:54:54 UTC  

yep

2019-10-24 05:55:02 UTC  

Okay that makes sense

2019-10-24 05:55:11 UTC  

the thing is the only people with standing to make a case was the US Legislature

2019-10-24 05:55:12 UTC  

And they probably cited Civil Rights Acts etc

2019-10-24 05:55:14 UTC  

Other laws

2019-10-24 05:55:14 UTC  
2019-10-24 05:55:18 UTC  

did you guys watch this

2019-10-24 05:55:24 UTC  

sno

2019-10-24 05:55:24 UTC  

im realizing snowden is /ourguy/

2019-10-24 05:55:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/636804920921817088/eh2347fa5yn31.png

2019-10-24 05:55:32 UTC  

No

2019-10-24 05:55:33 UTC  

he calls out all the deep state shit of comey and clapper