Message from @DKshadow

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2019-10-28 00:36:55 UTC  

yes it was too centralized

2019-10-28 00:37:04 UTC  

but Mao didn't know enough about smaller details

2019-10-28 00:37:10 UTC  

he wasn't an expert in these sorts of things

2019-10-28 00:37:17 UTC  

those are like 2015/2016 dates

2019-10-28 00:37:20 UTC  

and the people doing it had no idea what they were doing

2019-10-28 00:37:28 UTC  

plebs

2019-10-28 00:37:41 UTC  

like the time Mao told everyone to increase steel production

2019-10-28 00:37:50 UTC  

so they started melting down chairs and spoons and stuff

2019-10-28 00:38:01 UTC  

in their back yards using homemade furnaces 😄

2019-10-28 00:38:12 UTC  

the only way this would work is with massive industry

2019-10-28 00:38:20 UTC  

and China was painfully lacking in industry

2019-10-28 00:38:27 UTC  

it was a peasant country basically

2019-10-28 00:38:32 UTC  

TOMORROW BELONGS TO ME!!

2019-10-28 00:38:40 UTC  

and the Chinese lacked industrial level farming

2019-10-28 00:38:45 UTC  

another reason why it didn't work

2019-10-28 00:38:59 UTC  

Chinese peasants were still using old methods of farming

2019-10-28 00:39:07 UTC  

and largely subsistence

2019-10-28 00:39:16 UTC  

why are you so obsessed with chinese communism

2019-10-28 00:39:27 UTC  

me?

2019-10-28 00:39:33 UTC  

whoever is talking about it

2019-10-28 00:39:45 UTC  

Yes, that can be said for leaders in general. Maybe he wasn't so smart after all? Perhaps he should've gotten some good advisors.

I hear Stalin got some economic advisors who he never listened to. Kim il Sung got some economic nerds to manage his personal finances, now he's dead, they manage NK's foreign investments.

2019-10-28 00:39:53 UTC  

I dunno who that might be

2019-10-28 00:39:55 UTC  

could be me

2019-10-28 00:40:05 UTC  

You're rarely see this shit with absolute monarchs, that's the thing.

2019-10-28 00:40:10 UTC  

Why is that?

2019-10-28 00:40:12 UTC  

in which case, I'm not really, I've studied China but have kinda glossed over the CCP history

2019-10-28 00:40:28 UTC  

if peterson hates communism so much why did he name his daughter after gorbuchev

2019-10-28 00:40:49 UTC  

Maybe because Monarchs ruled over more decentralised, fuedal societies?

2019-10-28 00:40:59 UTC  

because Gorbachev ended the USSR maybe?

2019-10-28 00:41:08 UTC  

but JBP was actually a Socialist back in the day

2019-10-28 00:41:12 UTC  

a Progressive

2019-10-28 00:41:15 UTC  

Mikhaila is 27, so she was born in 1992.

2019-10-28 00:41:19 UTC  

Communism fell in 1989

2019-10-28 00:41:19 UTC  

the NDP in Canada

2019-10-28 00:41:23 UTC  

New Democratic Party

2019-10-28 00:41:26 UTC  

She was named after Gorby

2019-10-28 00:41:33 UTC  

guaranteed

2019-10-28 00:41:54 UTC  

Mao was really smart

2019-10-28 00:41:54 UTC  

@fuguer Fell in 1991, but by 1990, the USSR were already planning a transition to a market economy.