To the point of not even having utility

i know you're position its the last vestige of every science denier

i don't know about that.

Nice strawman

Ie it's false

In comparison

You are denying science right now

you create some false dilemma based on semantics and psuedoscience

Yep

It's sad the level of projection going on here

it's okay

Sometimes you have to read some sociology

lmao

then please explain how monozygotic and dizygotic twins differe in their objective and effective shared environments?

Your religious texts

under the effective lens, the shared environment relates to the 'similarity of the siblings' whatever that means, and the unshared environment relates to anything which makes the siblings dissimilar - under the objective lens, the shared environment relates to the environment shared by siblings, ie. the home environment and parenting, whereas the unshared environment relates to twins personal lives and lives outside of home @BabygottBach

@fuguer they don't need to differ.

can you please stop asking me what the difference is?

are you satisfied that I know?

Good

Now the two are conflated by twin studies

if neither of the environments differ, yet the correlation differs, then the difference does need to be genetic in origin

okay, so can you explain to me how the conflation of these two means that IQ isn't heritable?

They conflate the effective and the objective.

yes

ok

some of them

Because the two are not the same.

therefore...

it doesnt matter if theyre the same or not

therefore what

if you compare monozygotic with dizygotic

why does that mean intelligence isn't heritable

Therefore the founding assumption of twin studies is wrong.

it doesn't mean that

@BabygottBach I don't know the difference. Explain.

ok i guess we cant learn anything from twin studies

it casts DOUBT upon the methodology

@Markomann
Is it grammatically correct to say:
- "Er ist noch nicht fertig" or
- "Er ist nicht noch fertig" or
- "Er ist nicht fertig noch"

let all the scientists know

EXACTLY