Message from @Octo

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2019-10-30 06:59:12 UTC  

are you satisfied that I know?

2019-10-30 06:59:19 UTC  

Good

2019-10-30 06:59:27 UTC  

Now the two are conflated by twin studies

2019-10-30 06:59:34 UTC  

if neither of the environments differ, yet the correlation differs, then the difference does need to be genetic in origin

2019-10-30 06:59:39 UTC  

okay, so can you explain to me how the conflation of these two means that IQ isn't heritable?

2019-10-30 06:59:42 UTC  

They conflate the effective and the objective.

2019-10-30 06:59:45 UTC  

yes

2019-10-30 06:59:46 UTC  

ok

2019-10-30 06:59:51 UTC  

some of them

2019-10-30 06:59:54 UTC  

Because the two are not the same.

2019-10-30 06:59:56 UTC  

therefore...

2019-10-30 07:00:01 UTC  

it doesnt matter if theyre the same or not

2019-10-30 07:00:04 UTC  

therefore what

2019-10-30 07:00:08 UTC  

if you compare monozygotic with dizygotic

2019-10-30 07:00:12 UTC  

why does that mean intelligence isn't heritable

2019-10-30 07:00:15 UTC  

Therefore the founding assumption of twin studies is wrong.

2019-10-30 07:00:18 UTC  

it doesn't mean that

2019-10-30 07:00:20 UTC  

@BabygottBach I don't know the difference. Explain.

2019-10-30 07:00:26 UTC  

ok i guess we cant learn anything from twin studies

2019-10-30 07:00:26 UTC  

it casts DOUBT upon the methodology

2019-10-30 07:00:28 UTC  

@Markomann
Is it grammatically correct to say:
- "Er ist noch nicht fertig" or
- "Er ist nicht noch fertig" or
- "Er ist nicht fertig noch"

2019-10-30 07:00:29 UTC  

let all the scientists know

2019-10-30 07:00:31 UTC  

EXACTLY

2019-10-30 07:00:37 UTC  

YOU CAN'T LEARN ANYTHING FROM TWIN STUDIES

2019-10-30 07:00:38 UTC  

theyre dumb and babygottbach has it all figured out

2019-10-30 07:00:39 UTC  

DING DING DING

2019-10-30 07:00:40 UTC  

ok so it doesn't mean that intelligence isn't heritable, and you can't explain why it would...

2019-10-30 07:00:47 UTC  

ok thanks i heard all i need to

2019-10-30 07:00:48 UTC  

so why are you bringing it up?

2019-10-30 07:00:51 UTC  

Intelligence could very well be heritable

2019-10-30 07:00:56 UTC  

but twin studies aren't the way to show it

2019-10-30 07:00:59 UTC  

but you know sociology

2019-10-30 07:01:01 UTC  

that's a hard science

2019-10-30 07:01:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638995770015481857/unknown.png

2019-10-30 07:01:09 UTC  

screencapped this

2019-10-30 07:01:31 UTC  

by your own standards, you can't just anything from sociology, because we don't understand it all

2019-10-30 07:01:48 UTC  

not in the same way that twin studies are faulty

2019-10-30 07:01:49 UTC  

but you can't explain why the fact that they conflate objective and effective environmental lenses (which is something I have never heard of btw) means that they don't prove heritability

2019-10-30 07:01:53 UTC  

Until they address their conflation

2019-10-30 07:02:02 UTC  

why does that fault mean that they can't show heritability?

2019-10-30 07:02:06 UTC  

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