Message from @Banjod

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2019-10-30 20:32:08 UTC  

aaaaaaaand the bitch is gone

2019-10-30 20:32:13 UTC  

well, he did give us all a chance to try to hone our debating skills.

2019-10-30 20:32:28 UTC  

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

2019-10-30 20:32:37 UTC  

everything was strawmen and projection

2019-10-30 20:32:47 UTC  

imagine reading all that shit

2019-10-30 20:32:56 UTC  

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

2019-10-30 20:33:06 UTC  

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

2019-10-30 20:33:14 UTC  

It's race denialism bullshit. Among other things, it relies on the conception that cognitive effects of evolution must have happened before migration rather than after, for which there is no evidence at all other than some supposition made by the author. Furthermore, it denies the differences existing between groups of people that find themselves in different conditions (i.e. perhaps cooperation is good in a winter if you live on average 1 km away from anyone, but not at the equator if you live with 40 people around you all the time who may have increased violent tendencies). It then commits the error of thinking that genetic diversity as measured on a per-letter-of-DNA basis is a good quantification to affirm or deny the presence of distinct evolutionary pressures applying to different groups. It doesn't. We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups. Finally, it strawmans the race realist position by stating that races are "genetically homogeneous groups," which is not the position and which should always raise a red flag in the reader, since setting such an impossible standard is clearly evidence that the author wanted to reach the conclusion that races don't exist.

2019-10-30 20:33:19 UTC  

reeeeee

2019-10-30 20:33:21 UTC  

oh jf said it

2019-10-30 20:33:29 UTC  

<:JFGOD:439598359628611604>

2019-10-30 20:33:33 UTC  

💯

2019-10-30 20:33:50 UTC  

_We could have less variation than chimpanzees in number of letters, yet stronger natural selection pressures could be at play in shaping the different frequencies between groups._

2019-10-30 20:33:54 UTC  

<:goldpill:626276664837537833>

2019-10-30 20:33:56 UTC  

this was the biggest takeaway from me

2019-10-30 20:34:31 UTC  

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4888873/ @JFGariepy we've been discussing with that guy whether or not this study means that we have to throw out twin studies as a basis for high heritability of intelligence

2019-10-30 20:34:32 UTC  

jf is fooking based

2019-10-30 20:34:39 UTC  

i have to donate

2019-10-30 20:34:39 UTC  

"do you have the genes"
"yes *posts the genes*"

2019-10-30 20:34:49 UTC  

"do you have all the knowledge about how these genes work"

2019-10-30 20:34:56 UTC  

that's the type of person

2019-10-30 20:35:01 UTC  

nope

2019-10-30 20:35:04 UTC  

LOL

2019-10-30 20:35:05 UTC  
2019-10-30 20:35:10 UTC  

<:GWsetmyxPeepoSad:405337568901726209>

2019-10-30 20:35:19 UTC  

<:towelsweat:552805059042344960>

2019-10-30 20:35:25 UTC  

weebs OUT 😡

2019-10-30 20:35:47 UTC  

then I explain it's frequency of those genes, which are correlated to higher intelligence when they occur

2019-10-30 20:35:51 UTC  

silence after that

2019-10-30 20:35:51 UTC  

just not smart to post a webm or meme with enwurd in the name when the bossman is around

2019-10-30 20:35:58 UTC  

can Cenk say it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/639200850530795521/CenkNig.mp4

2019-10-30 20:36:06 UTC  

just kept doing this without changing views

2019-10-30 20:36:13 UTC  

OF COURSE

2019-10-30 20:36:29 UTC  

cenk is a vile bigot and should be sent to reeducation camp for life

2019-10-30 20:36:40 UTC  

explained how genetic bottlenecks and isolation proves that groups "must" be different in intelligence

2019-10-30 20:36:44 UTC  

silence after that

2019-10-30 20:36:48 UTC  

just repeat of this

2019-10-30 20:37:09 UTC  

Lol the Gorka stream is hilarious

2019-10-30 20:37:11 UTC  

you already know this is a dishonest person

2019-10-30 20:37:21 UTC  

there's now a woman who claims she was emotionally triggered by Nick

2019-10-30 20:37:29 UTC  

are you a nicker now