Message from @Banjod

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2019-11-02 08:33:28 UTC  

Exists as a system? That doesn't make sense.

2019-11-02 08:33:45 UTC  

As a power system I would agree

2019-11-02 08:33:50 UTC  

that you can come to objective morality through a system

2019-11-02 08:33:57 UTC  

I just don't see someone makign a new religion and it picking up steam that easily unless you offshoot it from an existing one

2019-11-02 08:33:59 UTC  
2019-11-02 08:34:14 UTC  

Molymeme has a system.

2019-11-02 08:34:22 UTC  

yes, but it's wrong

2019-11-02 08:34:26 UTC  

Yes, it would be labeled a "Reformation"
Like many others before it

2019-11-02 08:34:34 UTC  

and it's wrong because it doesn't concern itself with results first

2019-11-02 08:34:38 UTC  

Which are basically retcons

2019-11-02 08:36:12 UTC  

just because the system you grow up with influence how you view morality, doesn't mean if you grow up in the more correct (assuming that exists) system

2019-11-02 08:36:23 UTC  

you can't correctly _know_ innately that the other is more wrong

2019-11-02 08:37:25 UTC  

if you put results on top of that

2019-11-02 08:37:30 UTC  

you have a winner..

2019-11-02 08:37:36 UTC  

Is your system universal Banj?

2019-11-02 08:37:40 UTC  

yes

2019-11-02 08:37:49 UTC  

I'm seriously considering that the whole mormon religion is correct about everything, I'm biased though, I grew up with it, but haven't every been that active

2019-11-02 08:37:51 UTC  

it's just flexible

2019-11-02 08:37:55 UTC  

How can you have it be universal and not cucked?

2019-11-02 08:38:09 UTC  

because it's about the good

2019-11-02 08:38:13 UTC  

racemixing doesn't produce good

2019-11-02 08:38:31 UTC  

Everyone is evil then, because we are all mixed.

2019-11-02 08:38:41 UTC  

To know innately though
Self-evidence is mainly formed via consequentialism
And your axioms and judgements have changed via the new system

2019-11-02 08:38:42 UTC  

no

2019-11-02 08:38:48 UTC  

difference between being mixed

2019-11-02 08:38:51 UTC  

and promoting mixing

2019-11-02 08:39:10 UTC  

So it is immoral not to fuck your 4th cousin.

2019-11-02 08:39:19 UTC  

a little

2019-11-02 08:39:36 UTC  

it's more concerned with results

2019-11-02 08:39:41 UTC  

meaningful results*

2019-11-02 08:39:53 UTC  

but, just because it doesn't really matter, doesn't make it right

2019-11-02 08:40:11 UTC  

So the elites are morally righteous for saving their cousins and killing the rest of us.

2019-11-02 08:40:15 UTC  

making people suffer for no reason, even if it makes no difference, isn't a good thing

2019-11-02 08:40:28 UTC  

no

2019-11-02 08:40:34 UTC  

it depends

2019-11-02 08:40:35 UTC  

tbh

2019-11-02 08:40:43 UTC  

if it works, and the end results

2019-11-02 08:40:45 UTC  

Without religion i posit scientific innovation and research will actually subside

2019-11-02 08:40:54 UTC  

obviously you have to have a certain degree of confidence..

2019-11-02 08:41:17 UTC  

*Metaphysical demonstrations underpin all the great religions*