Message from @Hector

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2019-11-12 15:04:14 UTC  

The other one gimme a sec

2019-11-12 15:04:44 UTC  

anyways. Jesus was the important figure

2019-11-12 15:04:49 UTC  

not the pope

2019-11-12 15:05:11 UTC  

and I listen to jesus as spoken of through his apostles

2019-11-12 15:05:13 UTC  

not a pope

2019-11-12 15:05:13 UTC  

"Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.""

2019-11-12 15:05:20 UTC  

so where does debate come into this

2019-11-12 15:05:28 UTC  

Peter wanted to make a statement about faith

2019-11-12 15:05:34 UTC  

that you should not associate with Gentiles

2019-11-12 15:05:44 UTC  

When in exercise

2019-11-12 15:05:45 UTC  

Paul BTFO'd him on that theological question

2019-11-12 15:05:49 UTC  

they dead

2019-11-12 15:05:51 UTC  

Look up ex cathedra

2019-11-12 15:05:57 UTC  

blanc this is some serious mental gymnastics

2019-11-12 15:06:02 UTC  

What?

2019-11-12 15:06:11 UTC  

The when there

2019-11-12 15:06:16 UTC  

Ik what ex cathedra is and ex cathedra does not extend to Papal infallibility

2019-11-12 15:06:17 UTC  

Is explained in detail later

2019-11-12 15:06:19 UTC  

I'll leave this to you 2

2019-11-12 15:06:21 UTC  
2019-11-12 15:06:33 UTC  

Guys, it’s cold outside again. : )))))

2019-11-12 15:06:33 UTC  

I'm in the new house of Glory

2019-11-12 15:06:39 UTC  

Thats about the nilitary of South Korea

2019-11-12 15:06:48 UTC  

:0

2019-11-12 15:07:20 UTC  

When you have Papal Infallibility it means that whatever theological question the Pope speaks about, it is true and perfect. This is your dogma. No need for it to be ex cathedra

2019-11-12 15:07:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/643829268358365195/Screenshot_20191112-100733_Samsung_Internet.jpg

2019-11-12 15:08:04 UTC  

Only thru ex cathedra and the popes know it cant be used lightly

2019-11-12 15:08:22 UTC  

It was a measure for fighting prots

2019-11-12 15:08:35 UTC  

there wasn't a central authority for 1000 years roughly

2019-11-12 15:08:42 UTC  

Where?

2019-11-12 15:08:43 UTC  

it was splitt between the cities

2019-11-12 15:08:46 UTC  

anywhere

2019-11-12 15:08:52 UTC  

You mean anti popes?

2019-11-12 15:08:58 UTC  

they could govern themselves

2019-11-12 15:09:02 UTC  

There is defined line of legitimate popes

2019-11-12 15:09:03 UTC  

Ahh

2019-11-12 15:09:05 UTC  

prior to 1054 there was no central authority like Rome, and Rome was also treated as an equal

2019-11-12 15:09:06 UTC  

Yea

2019-11-12 15:09:15 UTC  

yes

2019-11-12 15:09:20 UTC  

But rome was more important always mate

2019-11-12 15:09:28 UTC  

then things went down a dark path