Message from @Eternal Entropy
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some answers
The pope does allow other patriarchs to do as they wish
from another perspective
Deterioration of Christian Institutions
heading^
No one, including Peter himself, recognized Peter as the head of anything
OH NO LOOK WHAT I FOUND
Antiochs patriarch gave rome the first place
"some say"
Letter of ignatius
you wanna talk about what Saints had to say?
Okay
we can play that game
How about when St. John Chrysostom negated papal primacy?
This page is gold
if gold was made out of copper
perhaps
“The vitality of men’s belief in God,” Bahá’u’lláh has testified, “is dying out in every land; nothing short of His wholesome medicine can ever restore it. The corrosion of ungodliness is eating into the vitals of human society; what else but the Elixir of His potent Revelation can cleanse and revive it?” “The world is in travail,” He has further written, “and its agitation waxeth day by day. Its face is turned towards waywardness and unbelief. Such shall be its plight that to disclose it now would not be meet and seemly.”
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a choice selection
St Basil also wrote this, and he is a Catholic saint
But a further rumour has reached me that you are in Antioch, and are transacting the business in hand with the chief authorities. And, besides this, I have heard that the brethren who are of the party of Paulinus are entering on some discussion with your excellency on the subject of union with us; and by "us" I mean those who are supporters of the blessed man of God, Meletius. I hear, moreover, that the Paulinians are carrying about a letter of the Westerns assigning to them the episcopate of the Church in Antioch, but speaking under a false impression of Meletius, the admirable bishop of the true Church of God. I am not astonished at this ... But I shall never be able to persuade myself on these grounds to ignore Meletius, or to forget the Church which is under him, or to treat as small, and of little importance to the true religion, the questions which originated the division. I shall never consent to give in, merely because somebody is very much elated at receiving a letter from men.
but I'm naturally looking forward to the obligatory "but they're just Saints, they can make mistakes too"
Let us also not forget the fact that Catholics canonised Orthodox saints who vehemently rejected Catholicism. So there is literally no reason to be Catholic at all, and any claim by any Catholic that Orthodoxy is illegitimate is just bogus
I cannot argue against this
my faith stands in confirmation.
@Epic Style You orthodox?
Even if i wanted to turn orthodox hypothetically, i still must follow my patriarch which is in Rome even if he is wrong
If your letter is truth then the other patriarch was wrong
this kills the Catholic
Same shit with different color
@blanc the Patriarch of Rome is out of communion with the Orthodox patriarchates lmao
for the past 1000 years it has been so
nice try with the gotcha but no
Yeah one day they will be reunited i hope
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And i will follow whatever you follow