Message from @Nerthulas

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2019-11-15 05:53:37 UTC  

I don't know what point this guy don't believe in evolution

2019-11-15 05:53:40 UTC  

that could fertilaze the soil very well

2019-11-15 05:53:44 UTC  

but fathers are more like sons than some random person

2019-11-15 05:53:52 UTC  

keep selectively breed

2019-11-15 05:53:52 UTC  

With the alt-hype , the studies he cites cannot be used to justify pre-existing categories. they can only describe the differences between the already identified categories, and frequently in these studies the low genetic differentiation and lack of isolation between subspecies is used to argue that the subspecies are invalid units for the system (fst for example)

2019-11-15 05:53:59 UTC  

and you end up with divergent populations..

2019-11-15 05:54:04 UTC  

repeat, that's race..

2019-11-15 05:54:16 UTC  

nerthulas cooms to levant pus

2019-11-15 05:54:18 UTC  

"I don't know what point this guy don't believe in evolution"

lol

2019-11-15 05:54:43 UTC  

I don't know exactly what you were arguing with MMW, so you should tell that to him

2019-11-15 05:54:43 UTC  

mods please take debates into the <#634548436280016906> room

2019-11-15 05:54:50 UTC  

lol, the fact that you even have two categories to begin with

2019-11-15 05:54:53 UTC  

should tell you everything

2019-11-15 05:54:56 UTC  

<:REEEE:640033860067000350> quit shitting up general

2019-11-15 05:55:02 UTC  

<:REEEE:640033860067000350>

2019-11-15 05:55:12 UTC  

the groups are already chosen

2019-11-15 05:55:21 UTC  

lol, pretending we don't have groups is silly

2019-11-15 05:55:26 UTC  

what does that even mean 'justify pre-existing categories'

2019-11-15 05:55:29 UTC  

you are already using them..

2019-11-15 05:55:35 UTC  

I am addicted

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/644777502249844736/1513277.png

2019-11-15 05:55:37 UTC  

they don't need to be 'justified'

2019-11-15 05:55:40 UTC  

they emerged naturally

2019-11-15 05:55:42 UTC  

if they weren't valid, you couldn't be

2019-11-15 05:56:13 UTC  

they are confirmed as being distinct in significant ways by further study, but it was already something that everybody knew

2019-11-15 05:56:18 UTC  

we're talking about a difference, blond and black hair are not the same

2019-11-15 05:56:25 UTC  

>shitting up general

2019-11-15 05:56:29 UTC  

what else is going on in general

2019-11-15 05:56:30 UTC  

you can group it as you want, and we already ahve groups

2019-11-15 05:56:30 UTC  

right now

2019-11-15 05:56:31 UTC  

lol

2019-11-15 05:56:35 UTC  

easily recognizeable

2019-11-15 05:57:12 UTC  

clearly there are groups, and clearly there are genetic differences between them

2019-11-15 05:57:16 UTC  

what more do you want

2019-11-15 05:57:27 UTC  

@Nerthulas categories not substantiated in the studies. for example, comparing human fst to the fst of different subspecies like wolves, zebras, buffalo, etc.

2019-11-15 05:57:46 UTC  

"you can't group them" clearly we can

2019-11-15 05:57:47 UTC  

what about it?

2019-11-15 05:58:32 UTC  

all they're saying is that ***if*** fst were to be accepted as a standard for the presence of subspecies classification, then humans would meet that standard

2019-11-15 05:58:43 UTC  

its not a complicated argument

2019-11-15 05:58:48 UTC  

like 80% of the genes are for our brains, think about that

2019-11-15 05:58:50 UTC  

just think abou tit

2019-11-15 05:58:57 UTC  

if we can sperate by the exterior