But 99.9% of the time you wont

And when that spear, arrow hits your face

that's just a you problem

You cannot conplain

I don't want to rule

I view these things strictly in third-person

third person is detaxhed

If I can't rule, or if I am ruled, that's a different matter

I want my beliefs and system to rule which is something else

It could be done

More localized

get your beliefs to rule over you

become an ancap

"We can defend our commons with less proxies of violence" Ok good luck I guess

Under the state everyone in a huge swathe of territory gets forced

Kek theres violence

force is good

Its just aimed at Them

there's no commons

Not at us

Sure

The state aims it at us just like at them

@Ozpin88 Propertarianism literally advocates in abolishing the state in favour of contractual relationships

you assume "us" are in a good state?

But you're not an ancap

ok

All states are bad

@Panikooooos you must have misread someone or something

Some are worse than others

state of existence

not A state

Welp

The same counts for that tbh

then we need force badly

We dont argue against force

Just like we dont argue against guns

@Ozpin88 Do you at least realize you're definitely a libertarian if not ancap?

Its just who wields the force

Is it us

or some entity