Message from @Chawosaurian
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get your beliefs to rule over you
become an ancap
"We can defend our commons with less proxies of violence" Ok good luck I guess
Under the state everyone in a huge swathe of territory gets forced
Kek theres violence
force is good
Its just aimed at Them
there's no commons
Not at us
Sure
The state aims it at us just like at them
@Ozpin88 Propertarianism literally advocates in abolishing the state in favour of contractual relationships
you assume "us" are in a good state?
But you're not an ancap
ok
All states are bad
@Panikooooos you must have misread someone or something
Some are worse than others
state of existence
not A state
The same counts for that tbh
then we need force badly
We dont argue against force
Just like we dont argue against guns
@Ozpin88 Do you at least realize you're definitely a libertarian if not ancap?
Its just who wields the force
Is it us
or some entity
@Panikooooos I'm probably more authoritarian than you if you want to get nitty gritty. I don't want to get nitty gritty thogh. Exo-posting aka evaluating the net-gains from hard eugenics and etc.
which hopefully doesnt kill us
good then you realize you need to use both to show you will enforce the intolerance of intolerance.
was america built by violating the NAP?
Yes
However
then at some point you will have to justify why you are the one to do it
so was europe
The opposition didnt follow the NAP
and then
It has to be twosided
what if they did?