You actually have to think

This time

it's not the best way, I don't think that it is

Whats the best way to actually solve it

Yes it is

force is the easiest way

So human are drawn to it

Well why fix ghe problem just HAMMER it

When you have a hammer every problem seems like a nail

there is just no way in a Libertarian system that you can justify hanging people for saying obscene things and yet obviously that is the moral way

Why hang

Just kick them

Pressure them out

america and the west face far too many problems too assume any political system alone can fix our ailments, these are in their core spiritual issues like a sickness or a disease of the collective level.

its morally obligatory to fight and destroy evil

Stigma and economic blockades are powerful

If you believe so

Than fight

besides why would I constrain myself with your squeamishness about force?

you know I am part liberal..

and there is little to stand in your way

Why should a ruler constrain themselves to not kill you if he deems it proper

might literally makes right

morals are made up

and who makes them?

the one with the might

force obviously is not inherently evil, since the great moral Emperors and Kings of history enforced order and justice by force

exactly

We have nukes so we should nuke the countries we consider evil

its a natural part of the human world

I have always been for more law and order
and I dont like all the gay stuff or the perversion.
But I have always been for sexual and social
liberty... except for rape, harassment
and authority figures sexually exploiting on girls etc.

if force is immoral then how did Hadrian get rid of the Jews?

moral force dependent on gods will can be authoritative

Its not force

Its Aggression

That is the problem

sight...force is not immoral...

That semantic is extremely important

morality is a product of force.

Nothing is inherently evil when you're a moral relativist <:ahem:639979147782914084>

Yes