Message from @virtue

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2019-12-23 19:41:34 UTC  

Its the best way to do it

2019-12-23 19:41:42 UTC  

You actually have to think

2019-12-23 19:41:45 UTC  

This time

2019-12-23 19:41:52 UTC  

it's not the best way, I don't think that it is

2019-12-23 19:41:56 UTC  

Whats the best way to actually solve it

2019-12-23 19:41:59 UTC  

Yes it is

2019-12-23 19:42:02 UTC  

force is the easiest way

2019-12-23 19:42:08 UTC  

So human are drawn to it

2019-12-23 19:42:18 UTC  

Well why fix ghe problem just HAMMER it

2019-12-23 19:42:30 UTC  

When you have a hammer every problem seems like a nail

2019-12-23 19:42:41 UTC  

there is just no way in a Libertarian system that you can justify hanging people for saying obscene things and yet obviously that is the moral way

2019-12-23 19:42:47 UTC  

Why hang

2019-12-23 19:42:50 UTC  

Just kick them

2019-12-23 19:43:00 UTC  

Pressure them out

2019-12-23 19:43:14 UTC  

america and the west face far too many problems too assume any political system alone can fix our ailments, these are in their core spiritual issues like a sickness or a disease of the collective level.

2019-12-23 19:43:21 UTC  

its morally obligatory to fight and destroy evil

2019-12-23 19:43:24 UTC  

Stigma and economic blockades are powerful

2019-12-23 19:43:34 UTC  

If you believe so

2019-12-23 19:43:36 UTC  

Than fight

2019-12-23 19:43:41 UTC  

besides why would I constrain myself with your squeamishness about force?

2019-12-23 19:43:42 UTC  

you know I am part liberal..

2019-12-23 19:43:45 UTC  

and there is little to stand in your way

2019-12-23 19:44:18 UTC  

Why should a ruler constrain themselves to not kill you if he deems it proper

2019-12-23 19:44:21 UTC  

might literally makes right

2019-12-23 19:44:24 UTC  

morals are made up

2019-12-23 19:44:32 UTC  

and who makes them?

2019-12-23 19:44:36 UTC  

the one with the might

2019-12-23 19:44:41 UTC  

force obviously is not inherently evil, since the great moral Emperors and Kings of history enforced order and justice by force

2019-12-23 19:44:52 UTC  

exactly

2019-12-23 19:44:53 UTC  

We have nukes so we should nuke the countries we consider evil

2019-12-23 19:44:55 UTC  

its a natural part of the human world

2019-12-23 19:45:00 UTC  

I have always been for more law and order
and I dont like all the gay stuff or the perversion.
But I have always been for sexual and social
liberty... except for rape, harassment
and authority figures sexually exploiting on girls etc.

2019-12-23 19:45:04 UTC  

if force is immoral then how did Hadrian get rid of the Jews?

2019-12-23 19:45:07 UTC  

moral force dependent on gods will can be authoritative

2019-12-23 19:45:13 UTC  

Its not force

2019-12-23 19:45:17 UTC  

Its Aggression

2019-12-23 19:45:24 UTC  

That is the problem

2019-12-23 19:45:26 UTC  

sight...force is not immoral...

2019-12-23 19:45:32 UTC  

That semantic is extremely important

2019-12-23 19:45:40 UTC  

morality is a product of force.

2019-12-23 19:45:47 UTC  

Nothing is inherently evil when you're a moral relativist <:ahem:639979147782914084>