not 'objects' themselves

information has to be a pattern though, doesn't it?

@stem No. However calling it simply evolutionary is as problematic

Its more than that

It’s funny as you dive deeper more and more of reality is made up of relationships and patterns and less and less of PHYSICAL OBJECTS

you should have answered yes, partly

except ropes

So why is Dyer anti JF

universally speaking?

Does Dyer even accept the creator creation distinction

the distinction between g and d is o

that's why god

That darth Dawkins “debate” was pure comedy gold

yes exactly, just as platonists mistake universals as being things themselves when actually they exist as relations, things that naive realists take to be atomic, immediate things in themselves are also not basic

I dont actually agree with Dyer for the most part. I still hold that christianity is jewish, and God is unnecessary for realizing metaphysics and being.

My alarm ducks are being loud this morning

As I started studying philosophy

In fact Jay is using concepts from Plato

and Aristotle

who were pagans

I think platonic forms are cringe as hell though

“An ideal form of a chair”

most of you are homosexuals

What the platonic ideal cpu

ye their idea is that these philosophers were actually doing 'natural theology' so they were approximating with knowledge what was later shown through revelation

Well the ideal form of a chair is in the subject (mind), which materializes

plato was an homosexual

and a pedophile

what about locke

I am very very skeptical of someone who in the modern day reads Plato and is convinced by his metaphysics

look

the <:virgin:396572545610022914> argument vs the <:CHAD:396569198404435969> ad hominem

it's not what plato meant

plato meant that in your mind

you have an ideal

Well I am a fan of Zeno and Parmenides

Plato had some interesting ideas for his time, allegory of the bear cave is nice but for the most part he is way off the mark

and that's how you recognize objects

Locke was an Empiricist

locke was a pedo too

If you read his dialogues he was obsessed with meaningless concepts like “holiness”