they exist as patterns

@Daddy White?

Portugroid

Kek

I love how I’ve seen @Nerthulas become exponentially more intelligent over time

'whiteness' is just an arrangement

this was always my position Fuguer...

@stem Because Its transcendent existence represented through culture and beliefs. It has an ontological status in of itself.

we just agree on a lot

But ultimately everything is information

Patterns have meaning but they’re not fundamental

they say it started with "word"

exactly

@The Living Paradox are you saying that race is a social construction?

they are the relations between 'objects' whatever that means

not 'objects' themselves

information has to be a pattern though, doesn't it?

@stem No. However calling it simply evolutionary is as problematic

Its more than that

It’s funny as you dive deeper more and more of reality is made up of relationships and patterns and less and less of PHYSICAL OBJECTS

you should have answered yes, partly

except ropes

So why is Dyer anti JF

universally speaking?

Does Dyer even accept the creator creation distinction

the distinction between g and d is o

that's why god

That darth Dawkins “debate” was pure comedy gold

yes exactly, just as platonists mistake universals as being things themselves when actually they exist as relations, things that naive realists take to be atomic, immediate things in themselves are also not basic

I dont actually agree with Dyer for the most part. I still hold that christianity is jewish, and God is unnecessary for realizing metaphysics and being.

My alarm ducks are being loud this morning

As I started studying philosophy

In fact Jay is using concepts from Plato

and Aristotle

who were pagans

I think platonic forms are cringe as hell though

“An ideal form of a chair”

most of you are homosexuals

What the platonic ideal cpu

ye their idea is that these philosophers were actually doing 'natural theology' so they were approximating with knowledge what was later shown through revelation