Message from @stem

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2020-01-20 16:57:39 UTC  

If you think philosophy explains the world I’ve got a bridge to sell you

2020-01-20 16:57:41 UTC  

philosophy, that is

2020-01-20 16:57:41 UTC  

its scientific to understand a tomato is a fruit, but it takes philosophy to understand that you dont put it in a fruit salad?

2020-01-20 16:57:43 UTC  

3 pages of schopenhauer explain a shitton

2020-01-20 16:58:01 UTC  

Fruit is an arbitrary definition

2020-01-20 16:58:20 UTC  

We build walls around fuzzy concepts and label them

2020-01-20 16:58:29 UTC  

You didn't demonstrate how It is bullshit. Scientism gives explanations of objects, by reducing them to their components and qualities. A human isn't a human, but a bundle of cells

2020-01-20 16:58:30 UTC  

look at the conservative over here

2020-01-20 16:58:42 UTC  

what does philosophy do?

2020-01-20 16:58:43 UTC  

How are you going to prove that a human is

2020-01-20 16:58:53 UTC  

Philosophy is level wisdom

2020-01-20 16:58:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/668862047580192776/1579274612884.png

2020-01-20 16:59:06 UTC  

Science doesn’t reduce things to components it also studies the relationships which are more important than the components

2020-01-20 16:59:07 UTC  

The ability to logically get to a conclusion of what is out there

2020-01-20 16:59:08 UTC  

and more

2020-01-20 16:59:23 UTC  

That’s what anti reductionists get wrongs

2020-01-20 16:59:28 UTC  

Relationships are everything

2020-01-20 16:59:33 UTC  

@fuguer relations are also reductionist

2020-01-20 16:59:33 UTC  

so just thinking about thinking

2020-01-20 16:59:37 UTC  

Philosophy is gay. <:FeelsKek:379422423206068245> Anyone can do it. All philosophy is is day dreaming and some flibba bothered to write it down. <:pepekek:649611550809653248>

2020-01-20 16:59:38 UTC  

i like thinking about thinking

2020-01-20 16:59:46 UTC  

and methodologies

2020-01-20 16:59:48 UTC  

and metaphors

2020-01-20 17:00:00 UTC  

if that's philosophy, then i like those things

2020-01-20 17:00:08 UTC  

I wish you could see the world as i see it

2020-01-20 17:00:36 UTC  

science is just about predictions tbh, what else would it be? more lab coats and beakers = more scientific?

2020-01-20 17:00:43 UTC  

a lot of philosophy seems to be overly complex explanations of simple phenomena

2020-01-20 17:00:48 UTC  

You can't explain why a painting is representing something, by saying there is a bunch of paint particles on paper, you see for example a picture of war, It represents war. Its also not Its relationship with humans

2020-01-20 17:00:52 UTC  

with lots of invented terminology

2020-01-20 17:00:55 UTC  

pointlessly

2020-01-20 17:01:28 UTC  

Yes that’s why I’m saying calling science reductionist misses the point that relationships are what’s important

2020-01-20 17:01:38 UTC  

@fuguer Relations are just another way to reduce objects. A human is not a relation of cells, Its a human

2020-01-20 17:01:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/668862740722352178/post-and-beam-barn-example1.png

2020-01-20 17:01:47 UTC  

hnnnnnggggggg

2020-01-20 17:01:50 UTC  

How the paint interacts with photons and your eye and then your neurons

2020-01-20 17:01:52 UTC  

humans are gay

2020-01-20 17:01:58 UTC  

sometimes i hear a devotee of some particular philosophy accidentally slip into normal speech and explain his whole idea in a very simple, sensible way

2020-01-20 17:02:02 UTC  

@stem language is made up of invented terminologies. Does that make it false?

2020-01-20 17:02:02 UTC  

this is what I expect when I move to the balkans

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/668862819071950858/unknown.png

2020-01-20 17:02:04 UTC  

But that’s very complex and hard to reduce to a sound bite

2020-01-20 17:02:05 UTC  

then he goes back to the vague bullshit