Message from @Str3tch
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@Chawosaurian the problem comes of having standards in general. Liberty implies that you should be doing anything as you please, including infringing on others property. Sure you might say thats not how it works, but thats the basis of conflict. If Im not allow to go inside any place I want then I dont really have liberty. It automatically becomes authorative. Also there is a problem of ownership as a whole, what dictates that my land is my own? Nothing, because I set those standards. So if someone comes and kills me if there is no state or monolopoly and my right of life is infringed with the will of someone else. There are no standards in this system, unlike say mornarchy of fascism which give out a common GOOD standard for everyone to follow
I don't usually talk with my friends about their academics
No
if you do not exert force and contribute to mutual defense (or, personal defense even), you're not sovereign in any way
Liberty does not include infringing other peoples property
you're living at the license of those who may kill you if they wish
ok
That type of liberty is self-contradictory
well it does include denying others the possibility of killing you
Its not
Theres still authority in a way
My friend and I almost never talk about academics. We talk about our hobbies. We like reading together and reading things together.
but its not through central monopolist
it is not about your liberty ***to***
it is about our liberty to say ***fuck off***
We would try to learn to cook sometimes. XD
the owner of each property, is the authority there
start watching at 1:23:57
reading together...? what does that mean?
the only thing society can reasonably provide are defensive rights
it's not contradictory. look. people need defense. people coalesce and delegate defense to one another. these groups are the sovereign. they confer liberty to all.
Like, we would go to the library and just read in each other's presence.
Until then its ok
The founding material is all addressed to sovereign men
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if im not allowed to do w/e i want there is no personal standards, no liberty or anything at all
The thing is the jump
it's not to women, children, underclassed
it becomes okay some people band together to protect everyone
but than
a jump is made
>being in the presence of another male
they make sure that nobody else can do that same function
L O L
Nobody else can protect
well, you're free to become sovereign, all you have to do is demonstrate ability and contribute-to, mutual defense
Thats fine
until then you're not
you're living under license
either you're a peer in sovereignty and thus sovereign yourself or you're not