Message from @Antaganoise

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2020-01-27 19:24:58 UTC  

Moreover liberals wanted Napoleon iii to transition the state and they knew he’d do it

2020-01-27 19:25:25 UTC  

He kept skirting and breaching the rules of the republic

2020-01-27 19:25:37 UTC  

Liberals loved Napoleon iii

2020-01-27 19:25:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/671435718522044422/unknown.png

2020-01-27 19:25:51 UTC  

They knew he had to consolidate power before reforming

2020-01-27 19:26:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/671435795743113236/unknown.png

2020-01-27 19:26:15 UTC  

completely separate events

2020-01-27 19:26:37 UTC  

Did you read anything I wrote

2020-01-27 19:26:44 UTC  

I did, it was literally all wrong

2020-01-27 19:27:00 UTC  

Also pretty sure nap uses regulars in both

2020-01-27 19:27:04 UTC  

the event where he put down the monarchist revolt was as a general in the Army of the Interior

2020-01-27 19:27:12 UTC  

and it was sanctioned by Citizen Barras

2020-01-27 19:27:35 UTC  

the latter event was also done using men of that same army when Napoleon came back from years of campaigning

2020-01-27 19:27:37 UTC  

This bloodless coup overthrew the directory

2020-01-27 19:27:45 UTC  

Where did he get a referendum

2020-01-27 19:27:50 UTC  

and he had the support of various ministers and the 3 of the 5 Directors

2020-01-27 19:28:03 UTC  

Where did he get a referendum

2020-01-27 19:28:20 UTC  

1804

2020-01-27 19:28:20 UTC  

Also it’s DEFINITELY true liberals thought of nap iii as a positive development and he played on them

2020-01-27 19:28:39 UTC  

1917 was trash

2020-01-27 19:28:53 UTC  

also the coup in 1799 was just to overthrow the Council of Ancients and the Council of Five Hundred

2020-01-27 19:29:08 UTC  

because the Directory as an institution had already been compromised

2020-01-27 19:29:20 UTC  

when the Abbe Sieyes purged 3 of the 5 Directors

2020-01-27 19:29:24 UTC  

Seems pretty liberal to me

2020-01-27 19:29:30 UTC  

yes that is the point

2020-01-27 19:29:37 UTC  

Could it be Anglo liberals and French liberals are different

2020-01-27 19:29:39 UTC  

you can't have French politics without a Liberal angle

2020-01-27 19:29:45 UTC  

that was the whole point of the Revolution

2020-01-27 19:29:58 UTC  

Nap iii certainly wasn’t a conservative

2020-01-27 19:30:05 UTC  

there were no "French Liberals" until 1815

2020-01-27 19:30:06 UTC  

Which was your og argument

2020-01-27 19:30:13 UTC  

the Revolutionaries were Jacobinists

2020-01-27 19:30:29 UTC  

I wonder, how is it precisely different to actually belong to a race/ethnicity as opposed to being mixed and not belong to any ethnic/racial group? What are the benefits?

2020-01-27 19:30:29 UTC  

and the Directors that supported Napoleon's coup were all Centrist anti-Monarchists

2020-01-27 19:30:35 UTC  

French radical republicans can be considered in the scheme liberal

2020-01-27 19:30:50 UTC  

Centrists aren’t conservative Lmfao

2020-01-27 19:31:00 UTC  

Liberals refers to the *Liberalists*

2020-01-27 19:31:05 UTC  

Even though he basically was a liberal

2020-01-27 19:31:14 UTC  

Centrists are often more based than actual cons

2020-01-27 19:31:18 UTC  

who wanted free trade, freedom of property, personal freedom etc etc