Afaik it might've inspired the jews in Egypt

Regardless there's also an interesting thing about Zeus and the like because tracing back the name to the original Indo-European head deity you get Dyeus Phter which just means sky father or god father

Yeah

There's also a very interesting parallel between the Chinese *Tao* and the Greek *Logos*

And, as you mentioned yourself, there was this idea that even pagan gods were "flawed beings...governed by fate."

Fate implies an overall structure and Telos to the Cosmos. Even if not personified as God, it does point the way to Him.

Now this is not to make the Perennialist/New Age claim that somehow all religions are the same and "believe the same things" or some nonsense. A Norse pagans goal in life is very different from a Christians, or a Hindu's or even an Egyptian pagan.
The Christian belief is just that mankind cannot help but notice God and recognize Him when they sincerely seek Truth.

I don't view it as a natural result, though I'll agree there's a tendency or at least was within religions to sometimes develop into monotheism

I don't like inevitabilisms like the idea that dialectics will inevitably usher in communism or whatever

I'm certainly biased because I'm not a christian though and don't share the same view of god

Well it's certainly not inevitable

It's not like some pagan religion will suddenly give up on their beliefs and a adopt Christianity out of nowhere, and certainly the reasons you listed above are part of it.

It's not an inevitable process like Marx claimed was true for Communism or Nick Land's Hyper-racist Gigaccelerationist Techo-dystopian Anarcho-Archist Capitalist Helladise.

It's just that the seeds are there- they just need to be nurtured by the Church to bloom into truly enlightened knowledge.

I frankly want to know why pagans believe what they believe. On an intellectual level, what is so appealing?

it's like Nietzsche++

you get ammorality plus demons to give you power and no eternal punishment for doing it

That or it's vitalism like Fr. Seraphim Rose suggested

That people want something to be apart of that feels alive and that liberal secularism and staid/pozzed Protestantism doesn't provide it.

yeah

The problem is that many pagans don't reason there paganism to its logical conclusions. It's usualy a means to justify an end and not an end in itself as any religion should be.

It also doesn't help that paganism secretly helps perpetuate the Promethean Man meme. Which Nietzsche and Evola helped perpetuate unwittingly.

promethean man meme? is that like whig history

Evola's biggest problem is his ego and imo it gets to often in the way of truth

Promethean Man is the term that one based Senator used for the idea of the sovereign individual

Anyway like someone said earlier, paganism is often used as a means to justify extreem tribalism/racialism

hawley?

First of all disagreeing about the nature of god and the emergence of the universe with christians is a good reason to look at alternate systems of belief. People who want to be amoral become wiccans or stay atheists etc.
Then there's the idea of Dharma which had a predecessor in the old IE religion which I very much like and identify with my views of good as an intangible ideal to strive for (which I had since my agnostic phase)
It's not so much about larping in Marvel costumes or necessarily worshipping any god in particular but first an foremost being in line with that intangible good to the best of my ability
Respecting gods, flawed as they are, I think is a good thing but not necessary for it

Anyway I don't like the term pagan

Wiccans are not in the same category as someone who is trying to be a good person

I have to say that paganism on the internet is in a bad state because of bad apples like Varg

People pick it up superficially and then don't bother to do the work to actually behave properly

Regarding the racial aspect, yes it factors into it and it should if you're not someone who thinks in terms of universal salvation and whatnot

@Skellington I think that's the guy.

@Korin Dickman anyways what are your thoughts

Wiccans are definitely a joke. They are about on the level of artificiality as Scientology if you look into the origins of that movement.
>There were witch cults all over Europe that believed these obviously new age hippy things
>No I don't have any really proof, stop asking.
>Avada cadava

Pagans at least have something to work from.

Well, it depends on the nature of power

It's becoming readily apparent that secularism alone cannot support the complex and cancerous network of "rights" that Power creates contingently to justify their actions.

Modern atheists and progressives represent actually what preceded Indo_European paganism

The old matriarchal fertility cults of early European farmers