Message from @Skellington
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Btw Zeon did nothing wrong
whats so bad about sola scriptura. all that means is that all that's necessary for salvation is contained within scripture
i dont see why catholics disagree with this
because whenever we debate practices
they always use the bible to justify what they do
Something something papal infallibility in case he's speaking ex cathedra
they try to justify the traditions of church through scripture
protestants just disagree
the council
The main strength about catholicism and orthodoxy is the strength that comes from organizing, however treating it as anything other than an administrative issue has lead to all sorts of nonsense
I think something broke when imperial authority over the church was sidelined
It gave it more cohesion
And stopped stuff like a bishop callign himself infallible and whantnot
In a way I dislike dogma not that I necessarily disagree with its points about morality but because it's not flexible
I'm a strong believer in good being something real but intangible and belief in this would sort of be a self correcting mechanism
Getting hung up on the details is just a corrosive thing for society
I'm not a christian so I don't agree but fine
the thing about dogma is what keeps me from the catholics as well
like i hate marian devotion and veneration of the saints
Well yes but you don't have access to the literal word of god just writings about what Jesus said etc.
i really do think its idolatry
In principle even to a christian good is mostly intangible
You have some orientation
But not all the answers
also some other disagreements
but they are more minor
dosent the catholic church roundly condemn the death penalty as well
I don't care about the veneration of saints but it allowed for pagans to convert to the church by rebranding gods and whatnot
thats exactly the problem though
it was something that evolved out of conviencence and then catholics have to argue that its totally 100% scriptural
I think the veneration of saints is kind of ppl coping with their monotheistic beliefs when ppl have tendencies going both towards unity of god/good and multiplicitousness
Same thing with the trinity
It's not a blatant violation of monotheism per se but definitely an expression of pagan mindsets
Yes morality to a degree is intuitive
Which is why I'm saying it's intangible
Striving for virtue is the main path towards it
That's why muslims call trinitarianism paganism
The intuitive way to express an unkowable god is to say he is unknowable, not to lay out a complex multiplictious nature of him which ppl can understand
not sure if anyone has explained this
the criteria for inclusion in the new testament wasw
1. it had to be attributed to an Apostle, either directly written by or written on behalf of
2. it had to be widely accepted