Message from @Mr. Nessel
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But you can't do this with the qur'an
If the qur'an say to kill apostates (which it does) there's no arguing about it
Perhaps. Never forget that Protestantism- the source of most degenerate/withered Christianity- was founded on Sola Scriptura
If various powers could wear that down overtime, the same can theoretically be done with Islam
Well yes. It's birthed the most fundamentalist and liberal churches
And it actually is somewhat similiar in islam
Like moderate mosques are pretty much doing the same thign as Ahmadiyya by avoiding the uncomfortable Suras
Whereas Ahmadiyya is the extreme end of it
There isn't an authoritative head in islam outside the Ayatollah in Iran afaik
The Turkish sultan used to fill the role of caliph/head of sunni islam too
Hard to say how it'll turn out in the end
At least in Tunisia you can see that tourism has made a more liberal islam win elections over the muslim brotherhood
Yeah, could be interesting
It really comes down to what power is able to leverage it's international infrastructure quicker
I don't think so
As far as I can see leftist that turn "pagan" just maker it abotu giving into their bestial nature
They want to fuck around and whatnot
It seems like a repeat of the matriarchal fertility cults
I think you would expect to see a Cult of Dionysius in any legitimate pagan practice. A machine cult would probably be a Cult of Apollo, but this would trend towards Christianity anyway. While there might be a small section of Apollonians devoid of Dionysianism, I think the Dionysian element would quickly overtake the Apollonian and act in opposition to Christianity.
It'll be fun to see all sorts of space cults pop up once it's been demonstrated you can just live on Mars or whatever
In a way it might be a chance for the more upstanding elements to leave a morally rotten earthy behind
I'm joking
There's actual potential for escaping this mess though
Btw Zeon did nothing wrong
whats so bad about sola scriptura. all that means is that all that's necessary for salvation is contained within scripture
i dont see why catholics disagree with this
because whenever we debate practices
they always use the bible to justify what they do
Something something papal infallibility in case he's speaking ex cathedra
they try to justify the traditions of church through scripture
protestants just disagree
the council
The main strength about catholicism and orthodoxy is the strength that comes from organizing, however treating it as anything other than an administrative issue has lead to all sorts of nonsense
I think something broke when imperial authority over the church was sidelined
It gave it more cohesion
And stopped stuff like a bishop callign himself infallible and whantnot
In a way I dislike dogma not that I necessarily disagree with its points about morality but because it's not flexible
I'm a strong believer in good being something real but intangible and belief in this would sort of be a self correcting mechanism
Getting hung up on the details is just a corrosive thing for society
I'm not a christian so I don't agree but fine
the thing about dogma is what keeps me from the catholics as well
like i hate marian devotion and veneration of the saints