debate your intepretation from the scripture and the original greek and such

thats how you come to know truth in anything

I mean, yes, I believe there is truth to that

That what the Church has done historically

But it has also set precedent

And built of 2000 years of consistent Tradition that grew forth from the Scripture and those who applied it in their lives.

I mean, that's the whole point of the Ecumenical Councils

we just dont like the way its grown. if you end up with mary and saint worship and indulgences then something has gone wrong

And Christ Himself said the gates of hell will never prevail over the church

sure the chruch dosent do indulgences anymore

but it did

and has gone back on it

which kind of undermines the whole infallibility thing

The Roman Catholic Church did

Again, I'm not Roman Catholic

dosent matter

you were the one that claimed sola scritura lead to disaster

and ive never heard an argument against it

scriptura

Neither the Roman Catholics nor the various and sundry sects of Protestantism act in ways consistent with the Scriptures or Holy Tradition.

Well I did. You can confidently point out that the Roman Catholic interpretation is incorrect, but how can you know yours is correct, using just the scriptures as written?

thats a big question

and i have debated quite alot

Arius thought he did. Same with the founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses and so on

Well, I know I cannot answer that question for you

this is the same tactic as atheists being like "there are 2 thousand gods and you think yours is the right one"

so what

so what if people were wrong

But I do suggest reading the pdf I linked. It's worth considering if only for formulating a counter argument.

ok i might read it when i get back from school

Ok

I have to get back to work, lol

God bless, my friend

but alot of what you have been saying is "oh there are a million different interpretations how do you know yours is the right one " this can be used against anything, and we dont accept it when atheists do it

so im not going to accept it when you do it

Well, I guess that's sort of a preamble to the punchline

Which is to say there is a clear and consistent way to determine if the interpretation is correct

the holy spirit guides those that are genuinely seeking

And that is what has the church and all of its consistently holy people throughout a thousand years have agreed upon?

and god forgives us trespasses

for we can never know goodness completely, for only god knows