so what

so what if people were wrong

But I do suggest reading the pdf I linked. It's worth considering if only for formulating a counter argument.

ok i might read it when i get back from school

Ok

I have to get back to work, lol

God bless, my friend

but alot of what you have been saying is "oh there are a million different interpretations how do you know yours is the right one " this can be used against anything, and we dont accept it when atheists do it

so im not going to accept it when you do it

Well, I guess that's sort of a preamble to the punchline

Which is to say there is a clear and consistent way to determine if the interpretation is correct

the holy spirit guides those that are genuinely seeking

And that is what has the church and all of its consistently holy people throughout a thousand years have agreed upon?

and god forgives us trespasses

for we can never know goodness completely, for only god knows

but we can get into the general ballpark

and this is why catholics sperging about sola scritura is just dumb

they just dont understand it

also sola fide vs works and faith

Real Sola scriptura has never been tried?

Sorry that was

Mean

i try to explain that works come from faith

but they pretend there is a big difference

because they have to dogmatically support church dotrine

doctrine

and cant get over the reformation

anyways

im going to school

Good luck have fun, I will talk with you later because this has been an interesting conversation

Holy shit. Sorry @Skellington I forgot I started this discussion and went with my errands. I really don't know what to think because both sides of the argument have some point. Before I say what might be appealing for me in paganism I would say what makes me doubt Christianity, I will put it short expand later if needed. It is objectively speaking foraging, it was adopted. Certain Christian teachings (but that might the fault of misinterpretation of those teachings by people who are teaching them, so not necessarily teachings themselves), corrupted institution of the church itself, destruction of native culture and history (which in some cases is happening to this very day).
Now, what is appealing in paganism. It is a faith that grew with the people, it is integral part of them and defines who they are. The thing you mentioned about the heretige and culture, native faith (paganism) sanctifies it. To the extent I would even say protects it. It is unique to certain grup and only that grup. Is this how the things are currently with the pagan/paganism? No absolutely not and I understand how rotten and subverted the communities of neopagans are.

Just my opinion.

I will be hitting the hay so unless I'm not sleeping I will respond.

Paganism was adopted at some point

Christianity has grown with European civilization

Of course paganism covers a broad region of religions bit still you know what I mean

And so what if paganism grew with Europe

What matters is what is true

Your soul is in the balance

As paganism I referre to old faith/native faith. Wicca is retarded, I don't need anyone to convince me. As to the truth, I would be great If at least one side had an ounce of it more to tip the scale in my head but for me at least on both sides is as much truth and lies.

But Skellington, Paganism did also grow with Europe look at the greatest of achievements by the European people under those Pagan Deity's. Yes sometimes it did get quite decadent, But so has Christianity. We mustn't forget that many Pagan days of worship and Gods have been incorpated within our faith today. Not only that what drove our people (Germanic, Slavic, Celtic etc) into these area's?. The Pagan gods did and the core principles they taught. Not only that our ancestors i think were that of enlightened beings. Even though i am a Christian and worship Christ as my savior and redeemer, I accept that these gods were not evil but were examples for the Archetypes that influenced the warrior spirit of the European.