like principles

principles tend to just lock in the current system as it is

hmm, principals are an instrument to enforce the status quo. Interesting, but I'll have to think on that.

Principals are self-enforced

Think of the principles our current system suggests that you adopt. Do the opposite

You are correct that principals are handed down, from authority.

I suppose you could even say from the Principal.

I'm going to have to think about the relationship between principals and integrity. That's interesting, there's something to this that I haven't considered before.

I always thought that someone who embodied integrity was someone who held to their principals. But, if the principals are bestowed from authority, then they didn't originate from the individual.

I don't accept moral relativism, so the authority that bestowed the principals is either moral and just, or not.

If the moral authority is corrupt, and the principals are held, then the individual has integrity.

..but is corrupt.

Mind blown

Then you have to bring in the realist point of view. The Melian Dialogue is one of my favorites.

Wait is that true what I was thinking out loud there? Does that check out? An individual with integrity only means that they are intact with the principals that were bestowed on them from the authority and has no bearing on morality?

not all principles come from authority

like in most of life, it depends

the most principled communist might have integrity with how he defines it, but he can still do evil to others

Most of my life I've held Integrity as my highest value, but I haven't revisited it in awhile.

Yeah, I think that's true.

Huh. Integrity, is by it's objective definition only the purity of form. A signal with full integrity is a signal in it's perfect form the way it was transmitted. It's purity of form has no bearing in the content being transmitted. Than integrity isn't a value itself, it's virtue is dependant on integrity to what values it's maintaining.

My primary secular value most of my life can't really be a value at all. Thanks @McFansy

I'm sorry

Crushed.

Didn't mean for you to psychoanalyze yourself tonight.

All you have to do to fix this is to make sure your principles are aligned with the outcome you could live with.

Well I've humbled myself to God natural laws. So whatever he says, that's the outcome.

Night

goodnight

and good luck

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1227040292060180481

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I don't think this means what he thinks it means

Kek

Lmao bidet didn’t even make it to the top 4

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Jeb-tier implosion

Klobuchar broke top 3?

that's surprising

Who?