A lot of people can say that but being in those times would’ve been a lot different

I remember that

Yeah but we in our day we believe in him and know what he did for us

You’re talking about a man claiming he is the son of God, that would’ve taken a immense amount of faith that only those 11 could show

Yes but we have the Bible

If we had to be back in time when he walked on Earth we could have treated him differently

We have heard this, for them it was the first they had ever heard of such a thing

Ultimately, if any of us are nearly as loyal to Christ as we all claim, none of us would ever sin.

And I think it is fair to say that we are all sinners.

I’d like to believe that I would but being honest with myself I’m not sure I would

Same i dont think we are in a society where we can be free of sin

I believe in God but it’s a hard thing to believe in Christ especially without the Bible

For everyone admitting Christ into your heart is different and I think the only ones that could’ve admitted him as deep into their hearts and shown such devotion and piety as they did was the 12 apostles

And still for them it was a struggle

I rather desperately need to dust off my Bible.

Same here

I’m still trying to get a catholic one from a heathen

Tryna convince her to give me it since she isn’t even catholic anymore

She is always a Catholic by virtue of her baptism.

You should not try to deprive her of what could be her only source of reversion.

True

@GodFearingEnglishman she’s a lesbian for starters and a Buddhist

Okay... and?

I’m in need of a DR Bible and she’s offered, she keeps forgetting so I keep reminding

I think you should let her keep it, even encourage her to read it.

She won’t, basically a blasphemer but ok, I don’t see why I should encourage her to keep it when it can be better used for someone actually trying to convert to Catholicism

You can download an app, no?

Yea but I can’t read for the life of me on phones, I like books and as I said I just feel like it would be better used rather the kept in the hands of someone that mocks Catholicism commits sin on the daily rejects Christ and advocates for ideas like that which murder innocent babies

Don't you commit sin on the daily, too?

Don't you mock Catholicism and reject Christ daily by doing so?

Even if she has fallen further away from christ, she can always come back

I do my best to not commit sin though, and work to better myself as well as to put myself in the position where I can eventually confess my sins once I fulfill RCIA, and no I don’t think that constitutes rejecting Christ and mocking Catholicism as the difference is working harder and believing in the church and believing in doing better by following Christ’s teaching

@Dang_Isaiah it’s extremely unlikely that she will, maybe she will though, I don’t know but I feel her offer of a Bible is a good way to help me on my journey towards joining the church

Each sin is an abandonment of Christ, whether you like it or not.

You seem to have a worrying lack of confidence in the Holy Spirit.

Alright well I think there’s a difference between saying horrible things about Christ compared to committing sin and working better

Understandable. But if she continuously forgets, I wouldnt press the issue with her. Maybe she will one open it up after a heart break and find comfort in Christ.

I don’t, i think the Holy Spirit works in all but all of us have a choice on whether or not to reject his guidance

That's well and good. But there came a time where you would have said horrible things about Christ.

And some choose damnation