@Wychwood He’s gonna jump that fence soon

>let me in

They're already in

😉

^^^

they've been in since the start

Since the Greeks and before

Which way Western Man?

Just subbed to the famous KKK leader Pewdiepie just to dab on the street shitters and big corps one last time

Imagine a combination of Jon Tron and PewdiePie

@Mr. Byzantium mfw abortion is actually getting worse instead of having a based Punished Kavanaugh

@Deleted User over here now

Yeah, I think you are

Surplus in economics doesn't refer to money

It refers to additional utility

And utility is the economics term for welfare

Capitalism tends to be good at this **if** we make some assumptions

Or rather **iff**

Meaning "if and only if" if your familiar with mathematic proofs

The assumptions are big though and don't work with Western Christian assumptions of original sin

The biggest assumption is that people make choices that are to their greatest own benefit

To use a concrete example then, consumer products. An efficient system brings down costs for consumers and makes TVs cheaper for instance. Is this your economic definition of increased surplus and utility?

That is one example, but far from a definition

It's more of a model for general decisions

It doesn't only apply to direct purchases

You can apply it to any decision really

So this assumes then that free markets are moral forces that drive down prices generally, both domestically and internationally?

No

It assumes that people make the best decisions for themselves

Which is absolutely false due to human depravity.

I am missing the point then. I am thinking about this like Tucker Carlson.

Capitalist could drive costs up at times actually

But that could be more efficient at times too

Free markets lead to improved standard of living, but all things considered they actually destroy communities and make life more miserable

Material gain, spiritual and collective loss

That isn't really true though

Look at any third world country