because R1a is much older than R1a1a1

@Korkza What about the Eric's Legion?

R1a1a1 is the sole relevant clade here

as 99% of modern R1a stems from it

As I explained to you

@Smackface And those are ALL subclades of R1a1a1

R1a1a1 is still 8500 years old, possessing r1a1a1 isn't really something special. That's a whole fucking lot of time to spread a single genome that literally, at most, 40% of a popilation possesses, from Karelia.

It is something special

There's not a single haplogroup that young that expanded as far and wide

Also 99% of modern R1a is just some 5000 years old

I mean again the obvious easy answer here is Steppes rape baby

Even though it formed earlier all R1a1a1 prior to that point

were genetic dead ends

Occam'a razor and all

indo-europeans came from the ukrainian steppe

Parent haplogroups are of R1a are found in India though

The iranian agriculturist had no Anatolian admixture. Most likely the iranian agriculturist expanded out of indus Sutlej and migrated northwards just like they expanded inwards into the gangetic plains. Your whole whole theory revolves around indus being Dravidian n sheeit which is wrong because AASIs were native to Far South while indus_periphery/Iranian agriculturist were already in Northwest of the subcontinent during both IVC and Vedic periods. East steppe civilizations didn't evolve till after Saraswati dried. People migrated both eastwards and outwards. Once the indus periphery migrants settled in Steppes .. they opened a channel of communication and subsequent migrations. Thats why steppe cultures emerged way after Saraswati dried

"indo-europeans came from the ukrainian steppe"

LOL

@Uncle Zoob when talking about time spans of that scale it's irrelevant

you might as well claim that fucking japanese are indians

because they descend from haplogroup F

Listen man if you want to call Dravidians your brothers because of someone banging a thousand generations ago be my guest

You'll fit right in

@Smackface I never advocated for that

and I don't consider even indo-aryans my brothers

I just acknowledge that they were influenced by indo-europeans

>implying us Indo-Aryans give a shit

>implying it wasn't the other way around

Oh shit lmao

>Indus_periphery/Iranian agriculturist DNA found during the period of IVC too
>B_BUT ARYANZ WUZ WHYTE BRO TRUST ME THEY WUZ WHYTE

@Uncle Zoob IVC were pre-indo-european

and they weren't white

they were indus_periphery

while AASIs (Australoids) were in far South

inb4 the original sargon was as white as today's meme sargon

@Daniil been trying to get in contact for a while but seems hard

what's your point

Meme Sargon needs to take a toaster bath or smthn smh

my point is IE people weren't white, they were indus_periphery

who influenced Yamnaya and Anatolians who influenced mainland Europe

@Uncle Zoob what components does indus_periphery break down to

Did you send an email, @Korkza ?

do you mean zagros farmers