Oh yeah I'm sure that no-one I've talked to comes close to O9A

They usually deny that they're actually Satanists, and try to play it off as a meme, but if you keep up the pressure, and they start to crack, they get pretty rediculous.

One of them, the leader of "AttomWaffen" was a skinny weeb, that was into guro (don't look it up), and constantly memed about baby-rape.

Of course it was always just a meme, mate.

I've been on the internet since I was 12

It is overwhelmingly likely I'll know every degenerate thing you'll mention

I know what it is, but I've only looked at a picture of it for about half a second. That's the same with pretty much every disgusting thing on the internet.

I have a good intuition, I usually know just by hearing the word and the context, that it's going to be something bad.

Honestly the whole O9A thing actually lead me into an understanding of "Esotericism".

Which, up until that point, I thought it was just a meme used by Nazis to describe things Evola talked about.

I've read a lot of esotericist stuff

It's a very cool category of knowledge that's underappreciated but nontheless fraught with spiritual danger

Doesn't it come from Judaism though?

Nah

Esotericism is just "inner knowledge", compared to exotericism which is "outer knowledge"

You could draw a classification between "Esoteric" and "Exoteric" Christianity but I wouldn't trust anyone who actively makes that distinction

Anyway, what I got from it is basically an end-all term to describe a degenerate and evil lifestyle, vs a good, orderly one: The Right Hand Path Vs. The Left Hand Path.

So simple, even "le skeptics" can get it.

In so far as everything that isn't Orthodoxy is evil and degenerate, yes.

I haven't actually studied much in-depth about it, except for the Sephiroth because I thought it sounded cool.

TBH

Effectively it's attempts to identify *really* abstract patterns

and comprehend metaphysical realities, aided by symbols and practise

You can do the same *type* of thing in an Orthodox context, like contemplating and meditating on the symbolism of Christ's life, Genesis, etc and drawing symbolic analogies between other things in life and seeing the patterns necessarily fold out

In so far as a purely contemplative pattern recognition and appreciation goes

But esotericism outside of that type of context is tied to some really bad juju, mostly accidentally I think

like Hinduism is a heterodox tradition filled with demon-possessed and wizards

and they'll do esoterics around the symbolism of their idols

I doubt it's accidental. Abstracts and other, possibly, wishy-washy crap like that is popular with occultists, hippies, Wiccans, the like.

If you remove God from it, you can basically use it to justify all sorts of things.

There's no shortage of esoteric-like symbolic exegesis in the biblical traditions, which is why I think it's accidental

ie the symbol of turning the waters into wine

or of walking on waters

In the paschal liturgy, there's a mention of the Theotokos saying something along the lines of "Where is my Son? Is he off turning water into wine somewhere?" while he's crucified on the cross

and the thing is, he actually *is* in a symbolic sense

Since the waters are a symbol of the circumstances you find yourself in, the passions, all the troubles the world throws at you

And the miracle of turning the waters into wine is a prefiguration of the crucifixion and resurrection - since Christ willingly accepted his Crucifixion and rose from the dead accordingly

The waters turning into wine is a symbol of amor fati

Okay, I understand none of that.

But I need to go anyway.

Sorry, but bye.