Message from @ChuuniMage
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Read up on it tbh
There's a lot that could be said is faulty about catholic baptism compared to orthodox baptism
But is it valid?
That is the question.
Protestant baptism is faulty
But it is valid
Trinitarian baptism is all that is required imo
Anything else is donatism
Anyway i gtg sleep
Its 2:30 am for me
Night
What does Donatism have to do with Baptism? A quick googling doesn't immediately make that connection obvious
Goodnight
oh wait found a better source
Basically
A sacrament is valid if it's done trinitarian
Hence any trinitarian baptism is valid
And there is no need, nor should you be rebaptised
Its like converting to orthodoxy and getting remarried to your wife
I don't think all orthodox churches do it too
But I'm not going to say no to the three dunks
There is no "rebaptism" because there are no sacraments outside the church
Historically trinitarian heretics were baptised and every other form of Christian is a trinitarian heretic because of filioque, Nestorianism, etc
Some are only chrismated through economy of a bishop and the chrismation is considered to give validity to their false baptism outside the church
It's not donatism, it's no sacraments outside the church
Sacraments aren't magic spells anyone can perform
Apostolic authority is required
And only clerics of the one holy catholic and apostolic church have this authority
Too bad that the Orthodox have apostolic authority too
What Elijah said.
Also, i did learn a week ago from an Orthodox priest that laymen can perform baptism, although chrismation can be performed only by the clergy.
It's something to be used in extreme cases only.
"too"
Only the holy orthodox church has apostolic authority
Orthodox are just prots who wanted a cool name.
^ Kek'd
Isn't there something to do with the validity of baptism, though?
No
None of their sacraments are valid.
Not the argument I was making
The point I was asking about was isn't there a process of "rebaptism" when the validity of your baptism is called into question?
Remember goyim baptisms arent valid because some autist in the 21st century says the filioque is ebil because then he cant larp <:orthokike:291522285020512256>
"It is true that Christ's baptism is holy; and although it may exist among heretics or schismatics, yet it does not belong to the heresy or schism; and therefore even those who come from thence to the Catholic Church herself ought not to be baptized afresh"
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