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2018-11-10 20:10:56 UTC  

Something special going on?

2018-11-10 20:11:01 UTC  

No

2018-11-10 20:11:11 UTC  

Just saying Romans are heretics

2018-11-10 20:11:14 UTC  

The basics

2018-11-10 20:11:18 UTC  

high five

2018-11-10 20:11:43 UTC  

@Byzas but Spanish adds -s for plural as well

2018-11-10 20:11:57 UTC  

But it doesn't just add S

2018-11-10 20:12:06 UTC  

-os, -as, -es

2018-11-10 20:12:09 UTC  

I read somewhere something about Spanish and Italian using plural systems for different Latin cases

2018-11-10 20:12:23 UTC  

And Spanish never took over English, if we got it from something romance it was french

2018-11-10 20:12:25 UTC  

Italian goes o->i a->e

2018-11-10 20:12:34 UTC  

But the french don't pronounce the S on the end of plurals

2018-11-10 20:12:44 UTC  

Les voyages sounds like lay voyage

2018-11-10 20:13:00 UTC  

Yeah but I'm suspecting the -s suffix plurals may have come from Normans

2018-11-10 20:13:39 UTC  

Maybe, but i don't see how it would have trickled into English considering they don't pronounce it and the lower class would probably have been illiterate

2018-11-10 20:13:41 UTC  

But again I have to look into that before I say for certain because I don't know much about Anglo Saxon grammar, especially regarding plurals

2018-11-10 20:13:56 UTC  

Well much of the upper level vocabulary is of Latin origin

2018-11-10 20:14:10 UTC  

Yup

2018-11-10 20:14:10 UTC  

So makes sense half our worlds would use a Latin derived plural system

2018-11-10 20:14:19 UTC  

Thanks to the rape of English by the Normans

2018-11-10 20:14:36 UTC  

For basic words every peasant knows, such as man, mouse, woman, we use an umlaut stem changing plural

2018-11-10 20:14:38 UTC  

And the rape of orthodoxy in England <:aaa:509492295599652864>

2018-11-10 20:14:53 UTC  

But for the Germanic word king we use kings

2018-11-10 20:14:55 UTC  

REEEE

2018-11-10 20:15:07 UTC  

cyning

2018-11-10 20:15:41 UTC  

Se Westseaxnas cyning, Æþelræd se unræd

2018-11-10 20:16:18 UTC  

Wessex/Westseaxna (west saxons)

2018-11-10 20:16:36 UTC  

Northumbria/Norþan Hymbra

2018-11-10 20:17:25 UTC  

Hey there is an extra space in my name

2018-11-10 21:03:59 UTC  

The Ireland Church was staying in Orthodoxy until the British King received the autorisation of the Pope to invade the island in order to reform that Church.

2018-11-10 21:04:17 UTC  

All of that before becoming Anglican.

2018-11-10 21:04:27 UTC  

British = Perfect guys

2018-11-10 22:08:07 UTC  

@Constantin le Lamantin The quote I have given is from St Augustine. And the 2nd ecumenical council clearly makes a distinction between heresies that pretty much amount to being heathens that are not christians, and those which don't. That is why, when they mentiion the baptism of one of these heresies, it is said how they have altered the baptism so that it reflects the non-trinitarian heresy. Of other heresies it is showed how they are not baptized. So yes, the belief that baptism is invalid if performed by heretics, is a heresy. A baptism is valid when the formula is correct.

2018-11-10 22:11:10 UTC  

@Mozalbete ⳩ So the Arians were using a correct formula ?

2018-11-10 22:14:08 UTC  

I think that, by arians, they still include people who accepted the trinity, and other more extreme forms of arianism as being a heathen. Which is why it is not said that arians would be rebaptized

2018-11-10 22:17:07 UTC  

So you are mading that of your personal interpretation. The text is saying arians. Are arians trinitarian ? @Mozalbete ⳩

2018-11-10 22:19:13 UTC  

The text is saying that arians and others are not rebaptized. That is not my personal interpretation.

2018-11-10 22:19:33 UTC  

So arians use the correct formula ?

2018-11-10 22:21:03 UTC  

That is for you to decide. But your position is that any baptism in heresy is not valid. You used as evidence the 2nd ec. council. But that very council states examples where tehre is no re-baptism

2018-11-10 22:21:14 UTC  

No.

2018-11-10 22:21:24 UTC  

You should have read what I said later.