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2019-01-19 07:13:55 UTC  

yes

2019-01-19 07:13:57 UTC  

that's what i mean

2019-01-19 07:16:12 UTC  

Oh, right, i forgot you hate us still for those political intrigues done by the corrupt emperors of the byzantines.
What a contrast, in several ocassions my catholic brethren have accepted validity of the apostolic orthodox sacraments, so i'm assuming it's a popular view of catholicism, while orthodox go full "No you're not valid, you're not true church" despite being apostolic as well.

Yeah, thank you in anycase, i'm going to take just what's useful.

2019-01-19 08:02:34 UTC  

Do you attend the Vatican Council II 'masses'?

2019-01-19 08:02:41 UTC  

If so then its definitely an invalid sacrament

2019-01-19 08:03:30 UTC  

I attend traditional, and recently i have begun to get ready to move to the melkite cath rite.

2019-01-19 08:03:43 UTC  

As there is a bizantine rite parrish nearby.

2019-01-19 08:04:20 UTC  

And, i have gotten deeper into eastern theology and spirituallity, finding it very fitting for me so, there is that.

2019-01-19 08:04:23 UTC  

is it indult?

2019-01-19 08:04:41 UTC  

if your 'priests' were 'ordained' under the Vatican Council II religion then I recommend you leave

2019-01-19 08:04:45 UTC  

and move to the Eastern Catholic parish

2019-01-19 08:04:58 UTC  

Since you are not receiving anything there

2019-01-19 08:05:24 UTC  

What about a priest ordered under the VII but that still gives traditional mass?

2019-01-19 08:05:39 UTC  

Not a priest unfortunately

2019-01-19 08:06:14 UTC  

the form and matter of the ordination rite changed so much that all such ordinations are doubtful

2019-01-19 08:06:37 UTC  

If he was ordained under the traditional one too it counts as well?

2019-01-19 08:07:14 UTC  

Well, even if that's the case the eastern caths have also been ordained as they are also in communion with the postconciliar church.

2019-01-19 08:07:25 UTC  

So, we have to be carefult with validity.

2019-01-19 08:07:55 UTC  

Its not only that

2019-01-19 08:08:02 UTC  

but the new rite of ordination is invalid

2019-01-19 08:08:09 UTC  

whereas the eastern rites have valid ordination

2019-01-19 08:08:24 UTC  

even if some priests are in communion with heretics

2019-01-19 08:09:26 UTC  

I see, i can understand some of the reasoning behind this but i still think Christ could not let so many souls get lost like that, to some extend there must be something redeemable.

2019-01-19 08:10:33 UTC  

Salvation is still possible through baptism and sincere acts of contrition

2019-01-19 08:10:51 UTC  

as long as we profess and persevere through the true faith

2019-01-19 08:11:32 UTC  

That sounds like forcing us into protestantism tbh, if we lack to the practice of sacraments.

2019-01-19 08:12:07 UTC  

Without sacraments we cannot stand firm in the faith.

2019-01-19 08:12:13 UTC  

Sacramentals alone are not enough.

2019-01-19 09:29:46 UTC  

yo my dudes

2019-01-19 09:29:52 UTC  

Stuck inside because of snow storm

2019-01-19 13:05:22 UTC  

Sede gang

2019-01-19 13:05:37 UTC  

lmao

2019-01-19 14:18:30 UTC  

That guy showed up in most of my servers
SedevacAUTISM

2019-01-19 14:49:56 UTC  

Wat

2019-01-19 14:50:15 UTC  

@Byzas you have a stalker lel

2019-01-19 15:13:21 UTC  

I don't think I've ever met a sede who didn't have some varying degree of problems.

2019-01-19 16:16:51 UTC  

Ey mates

2019-01-19 16:17:14 UTC  

eyo

2019-01-19 16:18:15 UTC  

Should be getting my standing crucifix from amazon briddy soon

2019-01-19 16:18:33 UTC  

Along with my tactical axe, but that's unrelated

2019-01-19 16:18:43 UTC  

Nice