Message from @Skeez

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2019-02-11 16:08:26 UTC  

he was not baptized by an Arian

2019-02-11 16:08:47 UTC  

He was baptised by a former Arian who accepted the council(s) that condemned Arius

2019-02-11 17:00:55 UTC  

^^^

2019-02-11 17:00:58 UTC  

That too

2019-02-11 17:22:41 UTC  

MFW been accused of donatism by a boomed Australian papist but denying Constantine's baptism is actually donatist

2019-02-11 18:59:02 UTC  

Well an Arian baptism may not be valid because the trinitarian formula doesn't mean the same thing

2019-02-11 18:59:38 UTC  

It would be a baptism of, "The father, creature, and creature." Or "The father, creature, and Holy Spirit."

2019-02-11 18:59:45 UTC  

That's an issue certainly

2019-02-11 19:11:05 UTC  

No baptism outside the church anyway tbh

2019-02-11 19:12:19 UTC  

As long as the baptism is done with the correct formula is valid, which is why there is one baptism and it is wrotten how people who joined the Church from mildly heretical groups werent rebaptized

2019-02-11 19:19:25 UTC  

@Mozalbete ⳩ Yeah, but it's not a magical use of words, otherwise it would have to be said in Koine or maybe Aramaic

2019-02-11 19:19:38 UTC  

IE, if the meaning is changed, then it isn't the same thing

2019-02-11 19:20:03 UTC  

When an Arian says "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit," they do not mean the same thing as us

2019-02-11 19:20:11 UTC  

Mormons are peak example

2019-02-11 19:20:18 UTC  

Of course

2019-02-11 22:13:31 UTC  

Yeah, okay, I had only heard/read he was baptized by an Arian and personally agreed more with them, but if the baptizer was only a former Arian that makes a lot more sense.
Even if he had been a heretic, of course God used him as a tool for legalizing and promoting the faith. I would never describe him as a heretic. I imagine him more as someone who was struggling to make sense of the theology and getting caught between the factions without any sort of grounding

2019-02-11 22:15:09 UTC  

My point, as such, was that we should not take his example of deathbed baptism over the many scriptural examples of immediate baptism on conversion or shortly after birth

2019-02-12 00:10:53 UTC  

Fair enough. My apologies for my initial reaction.

2019-02-12 00:25:56 UTC  

ahem

2019-02-12 00:25:59 UTC  

FUCK NIGGERS

2019-02-12 00:27:07 UTC  

Although they only make up 13% of the population

2019-02-12 00:28:34 UTC  

Black people are, more often than not, either thugs or more based than most white people.

2019-02-12 01:17:33 UTC  
2019-02-12 04:55:03 UTC  

Is it bad that I literally can't emotionally sympathize with cops anymore?

2019-02-12 05:18:19 UTC  

why not

2019-02-12 05:51:59 UTC  

I just can't sympathize with any authority figure anymore that keeps this shit running.

2019-02-12 15:33:12 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/544903813090508802/03-31-53-281839.jpg

2019-02-12 15:34:16 UTC  

What are your thoughts on vaccines? I personally ask for civility iwth answers for God's sake (literally).

2019-02-12 15:35:25 UTC  

Pic related

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/544904369510809612/372c2d6e5c661270.png

2019-02-12 15:35:26 UTC  

Here's the thing, you know who came up with vaccines?

2019-02-12 15:35:50 UTC  

Jonas Salk?

2019-02-12 15:36:05 UTC  

He wrote a book on how they should use them for eugenics and population control

2019-02-12 15:36:19 UTC  

Survivial of the Wisest, correct?

2019-02-12 15:38:10 UTC  

Something like that

2019-02-12 15:38:16 UTC  

As someone who has minor autism, I do believe vaccines cause issues.

2019-02-12 15:38:34 UTC  

Vaccines are 100% tools of the elite and I won't take them
They do indeed cause issues

2019-02-12 15:38:41 UTC  

Aspie myself

2019-02-12 15:42:49 UTC  

Yeah

2019-02-12 18:37:51 UTC  

TBH anti-vax type stuff hardly even popped up until the autism paper