Ah, gotcha. Thanks!

@arsenicMysticist the autocephally of Ukraine was really recent

If you don't have a full beard by now, just what are you doing?

But they're wonky modernists now. LGBT stuff...

@arsenicMysticist Except he gave a schismatic church autocephaly

Or at least implied LGBT stuff

Autocephally was a really bad idea...

For Ukraine

It was better they remain under Russia

Exactly, that is what i'm asking, was the UOC also to have their bishop elected by Kirill ad then made their own branch of church wich Bartholomew gave autocephally to? (wich whatever the case he should not have done because Ukraine is not in his jurisdiction)

Or was the OUC under Patriarch Onphury able to elect it's own bishop?

I have no idea how that stuff works tbh. @Mr. Byzantium any knowledge?

They used to be under Russia, so I assume Russia chose their Bishop? Then Greece interfered where it didn't have that power granting autocephally. Then Moscow and Constantinople went into schism. That's my understanding, but I could easily be wrong. Maybe the Ecumenical Patriarch does have that authority?

Greece did not because it's not the same as the EP.

The idea is that even as a EP Bartholomew cannot interfere in a church out of his juridiction according to our cannons.

But he still did because <:dab2:549526443638521858> <:dab2:549526443638521858> <:dab2:549526443638521858> <:dab2:549526443638521858>

Yeah, that's what I thought

I cry everytime.

@Deleted User

are you afraid of being branded as an phyletist ?

i understand, i go to a Greek Monastery and some stuff i hear is not what im for but eh.

Did I miss something?

@Deleted User i listened to that MP4 file, its pretty interesting.

Saw some good goy talking about muh persecution

I would be an orthobro if I thought it was good for my people. Eventually I found white Judaism. Drakes work is very interesting. He lays out the series of honest mistakes that turned the Catholic tradition into what it is today.

What is "white judaism" even supposed to be?

Apart from an oxymoron, that is

Calvinism.

Madison Grant recognized the Calvinist states as a refuge for white people pre-civil war.

I recignize it as the 76746754th nonsensical heresy that would have been trampled over by the first christians

The first Christians believed in the soul, heaven, and hell. Your tradition is a joke.

You can read about my tradition from the writtings of the first christians. The first christians believed in the many things mentioned by the first christians.

That is why it is "tradition", because it is not something made up by a random nobody a couple of centuries ago.

oh no white Judaism

well thats the thing mate, if there was a universal truth, like christianity, it would be universal

however, that does not mean multi racialism and all that are good

You can read about my tradition from the sect of the nazarene.

>the sect of the nazarene

can you show us, for example, the bishops that mention it?

I'm clearly not coming from the Christian tradition.

That is what you can find in the earliest christian writtings: bishops